Well, We’re Waiting – The Committed Indian.com’s Season Preview: The Rest Of The Defense (Part 2)

Ok, let’s keep going.

Johnny Oduya

2011-2012: 81g – 3G – 15A – 18P – -6 – 3.3 SH% – -0.22 Behind The Net Rating

Oduya quickly became the apple of Quenneville’s eye, which led to its share of problems. Oduya showed up proclaiming that he wasn’t a power play player, and yet after one goal against the Rangers he found himself QB-ing the second unit. He got a lot of minutes. It seemed like he was expected to carry the mail at times more than Leddy was.

And then it all crumbled against Phoenix where he got his head kicked in.

Things should straighten out this year with lower expectations (and a kind of silly contract). Oduya is simply in the mix behind the top pair, and won’t be on the power play. He’s going to play with a far more conservative partner, who would be more predictable than Leddy was. While that won’t mean Oduya is suddenly going to become a rusher, he can at least cleanly take care of the Hawks in their own zone in a sort of third-pairing role. Basically, Oduya will be having a good year if you don’t notice him.

Sheldon Brookbank

2011-2012: 80g – 3G – 11A -14P – +11 – 6.1 SH% – 0.95 Behind The Net Rating

Brookbank is kind of a weird study. Last year in Anaheim, he had the best Behind the Net for Ducks d-men and yet their worst CORSI. He skated the least minutes. He was their second best penalty killer behind Francois Beauchemin.

What does that mean for the Hawks this year? As Chris Block would tell you, remember Matt Walker. It’s the same kind of guy. A smaller version, probably a better skater, but the kind of lunk that can do stuff for you but that Q will roll out there too often because of “toughness” and just might get exposed. Rozsival would be the far better second-pairing option, but I just can’t shake the feeling that it’s going to be Brooksie here that is eating up those minutes. We’ll just have to see. Whatever, far better than John Scott.

Steve Montador (aka Dizzy Gillespie)

2011-2012: 52g – 5G – 9A – 14P – +4 – 8.8 SH% – 0.23 Behind The Net Rating

We spent a lot of time bemoaning the use of Montador behind John Scott, as Q immediately decided he didn’t want any part of him. He saw time at forward at both even strength and on the power play. He even made the power play role work a bit by actually getting to the high slot, a spot on the ice the Hawk forwards acted like they were allergic to. Then he got dinged, and that was it.

Monty was more effective when he did play than he got credit for. He had the best CORSI for Hawks d-men by some margin. Yeah, his decisions could get goofy in a hurry, but that was always part of the package. He has a massive shot that he actually got on net that we never got to see on the power play, simply because.

But now? Not sure it matters. If Monty did indeed have a setback just skating with his teammates during the lockout, you really have to wonder if he’ll ever play again. It might be wise if he didn’t. Monty’s only contribution this year will be on LTIR, it looks like. Even if he was healthy, it’s hard to see how he’s going to be anything other than #8 on the depth chart.

  • Banjo Legs

    Oduya’s contract wasn’t terrible in the context of the cap and other signings at the time it was signed. Since then it’s become the type of contract the new CBA and cap got rid of.

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      Uh, what? Oduya signed a 3 year contract (i.e. not long term) with a cap hit of $3.38M (not exactly exorbitant for a defenseman). His salary over the 3 years $4M in year 1, $3.3M in year 2 (less than 35% variance from previous year), and finally $2.85M in year 3 (less than 35% variance from previous year, more than 50% of max salary year). So how exactly do you figure that it’s become “the type of contract the new CBA and cap got rid of”?

      • Banjo Legs

        My bad, meant that more in terms of “overpaid” lower roster types.

  • Accipiter

    Poor Monty. He needs to stop playing hockey so he can spend the rest of his life functioning normally. I hope he recovers and realizes that it might be time to shut it down.

    • girlphoenix

      I just really hope Monty is okay. Concussions are such a serious thing.

  • Z-man19

    IMO the way Q handles the Dmen will say a lot about where he and Stan are in their relationship. If your GM can’t bring in Dmen that your coach trusts, somebody has to go

    • Accipiter

      Q and Stan must be going steady by now.

      • Z-man19

        They may be nearing a tearful breakup

        • Accipiter

          I hear that breaking up is hard to do.

          • Z-man19

            Someone always ends up feeling like they got fired

    • PainSt

      Do you trust them?
      outside of the hawks top pair, hjalmarsson is the most dependable Dman
      leddy might come up big and so might oduya or rozsival
      but can you take that to the bank?
      stanton is in camp for a reason i think …we will seriously need his type of play

      • Z-man19

        It doesn’t matter if I trust them, I haven’t seen Moonpie play near enough to know and same with Rosz, although I thought he played well in the playoffs last year.
        My point is does Q trust them and will he use them. If the answer is no, this will be 3 years in a row that Stan has basically remade 1/3 of his defense and Q has said ‘I can’t play these guys’. To me that shows a problem between Stan and Q. If one of those guys ends up spending most of the season in the Lepisto Lounge and the season doesn’t end well, either Stan or Q will be looking for new employment. My guess is it will be Q.

  • So the goaltenders will be last?

    That’s like serving us a delectable main course, hopping up on the table, taking a massive dump and exclaiming, “SO WHO WANTS DESERT!?”

    • SamFels

      You know that’s how we roll.

      • mightymikeD

        really, you could do the goalies in three words.. “Must Do Better”

        • Must doo better.

          But I’m only crappin ya.

        • Z-man19

          I’d prefer 4 words, “must acquire better one”

    • Well, if we all pretend to be dogs and monkeys….

    • Joe Banks

      Geez… this city is so fucking hard on goalies…

  • Neal Schmidt

    OK, so Montador was cleared to play, then gets “injured” again in the offseason. Technically, he can be placed on the pup list and NOT LTIR. It will be real interesting to see what happens to him.

    And the salaries given to the three UFA D-men will probably give a pretty good insight into their expected positions on the Hawks’ depth chart.

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      PUP list? Somebody correct me if I’m wrong but that’s something specific to the NFL and doesn’t exist in hockey, it’s either IR or LTIR (either as in, short-term injuries on IR, long-term injuries on LTIR)…

      • Neal Schmidt

        Its called injured non-roster reserve list in that the player wasn’t injured while on the active roster in a league “sanctioned” event. Again, that is why it will be interesting to see where he ends up.

        OLD 2005 CBA
        For any other Player who fails the Club’s initial physical examination in any League Year, or is injured, ill or disabled while not on the Club’s Active Roster, he shall not be eligible for, and may not be placed on, Injured Reserve, but instead shall be eligible to be, and may be designated as, Injured Non-Roster.

  • M7

    Anyone think Stan will kick the tires on Redden when his accelerated compliance buyout is completed within the hour?

  • Apothecaries’ Weight

    It’s weird to think many people thought Steve Montador was the solution to our problems a year ago.

    • TheFullAmonte

      Well he wasn’t John Scott

      • girlphoenix

        I will never ever ever get over Q playing Scott over Montador and Lepisto. Why why why?