• Jim

    This guy has said everything I was thinking about the Ducks, and their unsportsmanlike play.

    http://jonathanturley.org/2015/05/31/blackhawks-head-to-the-stanley-cup-but-should-the-nhl-move-to-deal-with-the-ducks/

    Incidently, this is why I’m glad Boudrou and his band of thugs are feeling bad about getting spanked by the Hawks. Bruce Boudrou wants to hurt people, as in put them in the hospital. So does Ryan Kessler, Stoner, and others on that team. They don’t mind literally destroying somebody’s life by giving them a concussion, or destroying their career.

    The NHL should actually ban this style of play. If they would have called all the penalties on the ducks it would have been a near permanent 5 on 4. What could the refs do?

    • jordyhawk

      Not everyone likes us (noteably Canucks and Blues fans which is actually a compliment), but we are what hockey is supposed to be about. Smart fans bases recognize this and respect us for it (the same way smart Hawk fans respected the Wings).

      At the start of the series I posted about what a douche Kesler is (admittedly stating the obvious), but it feels good to have him reconfirm that over the last 7 games and then watch him having to endure the handshake line knowing he was looking in the eyes of better men.

      • Brandon Murray

        I can remember during the Olympics when NBC Sports was doing little pieces on different hockey players and they did one on Kelser. He has a nice wife, children, seemed like a good family dude. I won’t say he is not, but I will say his blatant attempts to hurt people on the ice was both childish and unnecessary. Wonder how he would feel if some idiot on skates (ala Stoner) took a run at him and paralyzed him, thus keeping him from ever skating with his kids again?
        Don’t get me wrong, hockey is supposed to have hits and be a rough sport, but blind-side boarding, cross-checking after the puck has gone, or finishing a guy with an elbow to the face after a hard hockey play is not cool.

        • jordyhawk

          For sure. The other thing with him is he can’t take the hits (that’s when he gets his most pissy). Do you remember when Hjammer crushed him in the game at the end of the circus trip this year and there was good old Kes wanting to have a go with Hjammer a bit later. I am so glad we didn’t deal for him. No thanks.

          • Bannerman

            I don’t remember Kesler being a dirty player for Vancouver. I remember him diving a lot and embellishing. Perhaps in the Hawks locker room, where dirty play doesn’t really fly, he’d be more of the good player he is than the dirt bag he showed in this series.

          • DJ

            If the right player joins the right team, great things can happen. A Chicago example was when Dennis Rodman joined the Bulls. The strong leadership of Jackson/Jordan/Pippen kept him in line such that he was able to excel and wow the fans with his work ethic. Yes, we all read the stories about him closing down Cro-Bar on game nights, but then the stories came out about how after the game ended and before he arrived there, he’d put in a two-hour workout in the United Center weight room…

    • Saw the same thing with the Seahawks the last couple of years, the whole they’re not going to call a penalty on every play attitude

      • Jim

        The good news is how efficiently the Hawks euthanized the Ducks in Game 6 and 7. I would call those games a complete dismantling. The Ducks (like the Wild before them) are doubting their composition from the GM on down. Tampa is similarly constructed as the Hawks, so maybe that will send a message through the league. Speed and skill, solid defense, tactics.

    • Krivokravchuk

      So now you can’t hit in hockey? Sure the after the whistle stuff by the likes of Perry and Kesler is puerile and annoying, but no problem with trying to lay clean hits. As they found out (like others before them), it doesn’t work against the Hawks but no reason to eliminate it from the game. There are times when the Hawks forecheck could benefit from a bit more hitting.

  • rhodes

    Amusing quote from the SI article:

    “Kane, Toews and speedy young left winger, Brandon Saad, were greater than the sum of their parts, combining, in the final two games, for five goals. ‘When you add Keith to that mix,’ said the scout, ‘that’s as close as you’re ever going to see to a five-on-five power play.'”

  • Hags

    not from the morning links, but from NHL.com’s series preview:

    “BLACKHAWKS WILL WIN IF … Those top four defensemen hold up. It should be an exciting series with skill and speed everywhere on both sides. Keith, Hjalmarsson, Seabrook and Oduya outlasted the Ducks, but did Anaheim wear them down for Tampa Bay to take advantage?”

    The Ducks are now posthumously wearing down the Hawks D, even though the Blackhawks had a 55% CF% at score close in the final 2 games and outscored the Ducks 10-5. I HATE this narrative, its lazy and wrong.

    • Jim

      The other narrative is that this is the Hawk’s last stand before another dismantling. While possible, I think we have the core still, and Stanbo is signing Saad. Teuvo moves in for Richards, and Panarin (maybe) fills in for Sharp. Bickell goes, and TVR is healthy again.

      • Hags

        I’m more bought in to that narrative. some combination of Oduya, Bickell, Sharp, and Kruger are out, and it’s on the fringes of possibility that Cro could go for the right price as well (not that I want that). Although we can never discount the core, the Central is getting better not worse, while the Hawks will be worse than what they were this year without a doubt. The Kings and Ducks aren’t going anywhere either. 14-15 is shaping up to be pretty bumpy.

        • WookRN

          My JV two cents.
          Crow stays. He’s worth the 6.5. We’ll unload one of the other two, they’re each worth, I wanna say around 800k each.
          No one will pay for Sharp or Bickell. That will leave us with I think about 7 Mil, minus the Cup hit, presuming we win.
          Free agents- Saad, Richards, Vermette, Kruger, Desjardins, Oduya, Timmonen.
          Forwards- Sign Saad. Give him a back loaded 4-6 year deal, since Sharp, Bickell and Vermette expire in two years. Say a 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5 deal.
          Teuvo will be your third or second center.
          Try like hell to keep Kruger.
          That’s only one hole in center, a left and a right. Versteeg is still here, us him, 2 farm kids.
          OH, and that Russian!

          Defense- Oduya is gone for more money. Sign one solid Dman for 1.5-2, then figure out TVR, Rundblad, Cumiskey, Johns. There has to be two capable 2/3 pair kids in that.

          • mazer_rackham

            Sharp is worth his contract, we just can’t afford it. I don’t think it would be an issue to find a buyer. Bickell will be more difficult, but there might be some cap-floor teams interested if a prospect is thrown in.

          • Sopel the catfish

            Buy a Bickell and get a free Rantaa!

          • SuperHawk27

            Back loading contracts doesn’t help the cap hit. Cap hits are the total cost of the contract divided by the amount of years.

          • WookRN

            THAT DOESNT HELP!

          • WookRN

            actually, it does HELP, he gets his money, but we don’t have to pay him 4.5 up front or whatever, if we soft load the front, it does bring the average down

          • not sure I’m following here… If I use your example from above a 5yr deal with 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5 for each year the AAV is 3.5/mil a year cap hit. So explain to me how soft loading the front would work, maybe I’m missing something here?

          • Hags

            I don’t think your missing anything. the cap hit is the AAv over the life of the contract. the salary structure might differ, but that doesn’t effect the cap hit.

          • WookRN

            Not a lot. Just that 3.5 beats 4.

          • Crow goes no where until you are certain you have a capable starter. Folks might think Darling can be that, however, there is a huge difference between being the backup and playing vs. being the “man”.

          • Just the Facts

            Sharp and Bickell can be traded but the Hawks would need to include draft picks and/or prospects as well. There are plenty of teams with cap space that could use them. If the Hawks move those two, there will be enough cap space to resign Saad and Kruger, and to fill the rest of the spots with rookies.

          • WookRN

            I don’t think anyone would want to PAY the current salary for Sharp or Bickell… again, just my thoughts.

          • ZigZags82

            A team like Montreal or Washington wouldn’t want Sharp or Bickell? Again, there is value. You can easily get a 1st for Sharp from a team that thinks it’s on the cusp.

          • ZigZags82

            Hawks don’t need to include picks or prospects lol. Someone will trade for them with their picks. NHL teams are dumb and besides 10 can help a team on the brink. That’s a 1st round pick. Come on now.

          • Hags

            I’m not following you, but let me put it this way:
            We know the following players will be here next year:
            Toews, Kane, Saad, Teravainen, Hossa, Shaw, Versteeg, Keith, Seabrook, Hjammer, TVR, Johns, Cro, Darling. assuming a 5 mil cap hit for Saad (it may be between 4-5, but lets round up) their combined hit comes to 59 mil and change. Adding both Sharp and Bickell, that brings the cap number to 70 and change. The cap will be 71 million or so.
            That would leave the Hawks with less than a million to fill 4 forward positions and 2 defensive positions. That, my friend, is a problem.

          • ZigZags82

            Steeg is gone, Sharp is gone, Bickell and Oduya too. Believe me. They will unload them and get as much value as possible. Reload not cap crunch coming.

          • Hags

            I just don’t see them dumping Versteeg. With Bickell and Sharp moved to wherever and for what return I don’t know, Q is going to want one of his guys on hand. The Blackhawks are going to be relying on some combination of Teravainen, Panarin, Hartman, McNeill, Danault and other young, inexperienced players to contribute next year. Given Q’s low tolerance of growing pains, as well as no one actually wanting Versteeg, i think he stays.

          • ZigZags82

            2.2 mil. Still veteran laden roster. He gone.

          • cza

            Barring some sort of discount/bridge deal, I think Baby Hossa is going to come in around 6 million (+/- 250k). So we’ve got to move Sharp.

          • WookRN

            Not convinced about Darling…

          • ZigZags82

            Actually plenty of people will pay for a Sharp or Bickell. You underestimate the stupidity of NHL teams. This is a reload not a cap crunch.

  • Hags

    Also: Raw Charge (The Ning’s SB Nation site) had a poll, and 84% of those who voted wanted to face the Blackhawks. Doesn’t mean squat, but it baffles me that opposing fanbases still somehow underrate the Blackhawks.

    • ZigZags82

      Be careful what they wish for!

    • Sopel the catfish

      It may not be that they are taking the Hawks lightly, but rather they don’t want to have to worry about their players’ health with Penisloaf, 17, and Stoner running around trying to kill people. Also a Hawks-Bolts matchup ensures that Penisloaf will not get to touch the cup this year.

      • Hags

        Yeah, but at the same time, the Lightning would feast on that type of play, just as the Blackhawks eventually did. Oh well, can’t wait for this thing to start, it’s going to be a fascinating series between 2 damn good teams.

        • Sopel the catfish

          It’s going to be one helluva ride, speed and skill vs. speed and skill. The only whistles are going to be for goals and ends of periods with a lot of back and forth.

          • ZigZags82

            With a Hawks eventual series and Cup victory at the end of it all.

  • Sopel the catfish

    From the NHL series preview, classic Toews-face and even the cameraman in the back is trying one out too

    http://2.cdn.nhle.com/nhl/images/upload/2015/05/forwards_053115_630.jpg

  • GoldenJet

    That last link above has some great video in it…loved the one about the Hawks coming back from the purgatory that Dollar Bill had dropped them in. Brought a tear to my eye.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-no-last-stand-for-blackhawks/

  • WookRN

    The league needs to deal with this kind of shit
    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/madhouse-enforcer/Lightning-Ban-Blackhawks-Gear-at-Amalie-Arena-Stanley-Cup-Final-305698901.html

    Being moved for wearing away gear? This is pathetic and makes the league look bad. We expect this from losers like the Preds, but is this going to be the new league standard?

    • Just remember what happened to the last team that tried to pull that shit… I believe they will be watching come Wednesday

    • GoldenJet

      It’s only in a couple sections…who fucking cares.

      • WookRN

        Me, if I paid for that fucking ticket.

        • GoldenJet

          But you didn’t.

          Sure, it’s weak shit…but so what?

          Also, regarding restricting ticket sales to Florida zip code credit cards…who really cares? The chances of actually getting tix was miniscule, Florida zip or not.

          Tix went on sale at noon today for UC games. They were gone instantly and I don’t know one person who got tix.

          If you head down to Tampa, do your homework before you buy your tickets on CL or StubHub…then you’ll be just fine.

          • WookRN

            First, you’re absolutely correct, we weren’t getting tickets anyway, those are gobbled up by professional scalpers to sell on StubHub. Whatever, that’s how I’ve gone to every Hawks playoff game I HAVE gone to (being in Iowa, that’s not fucking many) for the last 5 years. But what if you buy that cherry seat and you aren’t allowed to wear your Hawks sweater there? That’s some SHIT.

          • GoldenJet

            It’s more like a Michigan fan trying to get a ticket and sit in the student section for Ohio State…

            Although, after actually reading your link…

            It says they’re preventing sales of tickets to people without a Florida zip code…even on the secondary markets…I call bullshit on that. I doubt they could do it even if they wanted to…and I doubt it’s legal.

  • Sopel the catfish