Sometimes I Don’t Mind – Hawks at Scum Preview, Pregame Thread, Renewed Acquaintences

oldschool @ scum hatchet

Game Time: 7:00PM CDT
TV/Radio: NBCSN, TSN2, WGN-AM 720
I Wanna Be Your Dog: Winging It In Motown, Abel to Yzerman

It’s been nearly eight months since the Hawks last saw the Detroit Red Wings, giving them the finest farewell from the conference and division possible in the form of a Game 7 OT winner courtesy of Brent Seabrook. After which Scum at last got their wish of moving to the eastern conference so that their sleep deprived fans could at least see them at a reasonable hour. How fitting then that tonight the proceedings with their one-time rival won’t even kick off until 8:00PM local time to accomodate the viewership here in Chicago even on home ice. The indignities never cease, do they?

For Scum, the move to the east started off well enough given the level of competition there as opposed to that of the west, maintaining a fairly regular spot in the new playoff format either in the top 3 seeds of the Flortheast division or one of the wild card spots. But banking on a bunch of guys in their mid 30′s or older has brought hell to breakfast in a most unpleasant fashion in the form of injuries, and Scum now currently sit two points out of a wild card spot with three teams between them and their 23rd consecutive post-season. Missing tonight’s game will be Pavel Datsyuk, The Mule Johan Franzen, named that not because of his sturdiness or stubbornness, but likely because he resembles the south end of a northbound burro, and off season acquisitions Stephen Weiss and Cup-Chaser Daniel Alfredsson. Captain Jared Leto will go tonight and center Scum’s top line, as he and Dats just can’t seem to get healthy at the same time. Funny how that works well north of 30, even for guys as durable as they have been. It’s left Mike Babcock to have to slap together a forward corps consisting of guys that should be in Grand Rapids like Tatar and Tomas Jurco along with guys who should be euthanized (or at the very least put in a home) like Dan Cleary and Todd Bertuzzi. After years of finding gems in the draft, it appears that Ken Holland simply can’t just snatch guys from the ether as he once could.

Scum are in the bottom quarter of the league in goals scored at 23rd at 2.4 per, and they give up basically as many shots as they take (30.0 vs 29.8), which borders on unheard of for Babs’ Wings. They still control about half the 5v5 shot attempts per game, but again only barely at 51.5 to 49.9.

Part of the reason for that has again been injuries to a blue line that was suspect to begin with. Jonathan Ericsson will return from injury tonight and jump right into the top pair with Niklas Kronwall, who himself missed practice yesterday. The other pairs are Quincey -DeKeyeser and Lashoff – Smith, so basically it’s a clown car in the defensive zone.

Compounding all of that has been Jimmy Howard’s injury issues, and he’ll again miss about a week with a re-aggrivation of a knee sprain from Monday night in West East St. Louis. That leaves The Monster, Jonas Gustavsson taking the cage tonight, and he’s produced solid numbers in Howard’s stead with a respectable .914 and 2.39 GAA to prop up a surprising 11-3-2 record. But with the injuries in front of him and this opponent, he’s still up against it tonight.

As for Our Men of Four Feathers, they enter tonight having emerged with four points after taking on two of the league’s top teams at home, and doing so fairly efficiently. And for those concerned with standings watching, they received a bunch of help last night with the Blues, Ducks, and Avs all losing in regulation, so there’s an opportunity keep some distance in the division considering the games in hand that others have.

Tonight’s lineup will be the same as it has been the previous week, with the obvious exception being the interchangeable sixth defenseman along side Nick Leddy. The smart money would appear to be Mike Kostka tonight considering that Crawford will be in the Hawk net, with Raanta and (presumably) Michael Rozsival tomorrow night in Minny.

On paper this would appear to be cannon fodder for the Hawks, but Babs tends to find a way to make life difficult for Joel Quenneville no matter what the scenario. It would not be the least bit shocking tonight to see Scum come out in full trap mode and dare the Hawks to try to home-run pass their way through the neutral zone. The Hawks will have to adapt with shorter passes as defenders converge to puck carriers to gain offensive zone entry.  From there the Hawks should get enough looks at Gustavsson to put things out of reach for Scum’s depleted forward corps. But any mistakes made will undoubtedly be punished as history as shown. Keep those to a minimum and move on to Minnesota. Let’s go Hawks.

  • steeg of their own

    Sweet Jesus. Scum are three spots out of a wild card berth IN THE L-EAST. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Discuss.

    • Fleshrifle

      Winging it in Motown: “Are the Detroit Red Wings a Bad Hockey Team?”….Yeah they’re injured, yeah they’re old. But my answer is yeah they’re a bad hockey team right now and if they don’t get healthy they will stay bad. The article ends with a statement that seems way too entitled and way too much in denial…

      “There is a standard here in Detroit, and currently we are far below it. There is no doubt in my mind that after the Olympics, this team will be different. This team will bounce back. This is Hockeytown, goddammit.”

      • Bob Lanz

        Wishfully thinking and with babs there is reason to feel like he will will them into the playoffs and thus have a legitimate shot at winning, except reality is a bitch and ending a 23 year playoff run is inevitable if not long overdue! Fuck the scum

      • DJ

        It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the Wings fought, scratched, and clawed their way to a first-round dismantling by Pittsburgh. But, yeah…that streak is ending sooner rather than later.

    • Bob Lanz

      Not discussing … But I am enjoying! All hail the fall of the wing!

    • nextgame

      To me, the most surprising number there…
      A 19 in the ROW column. Tied for 4th worst in the conference.

  • VerStig

    Wait so Q relies on alliteration to set his 3rd pairing now? Kostka-Crawford, Roszival-Raanta?

    • Face of Boe

      **This Just In** Brookbank will never play again, at least not until a trade is made

      • Beans

        Bulin and Brookbank?

        • Face of Boe

          Oh, there you go. I guess I already forgot about him.

    • Bob Lanz

      Now it’s all falling into place, he doesn’t have a clue either just winging it! All hail to the stache

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

    FUCK SCUM,
    That is all

  • Korab22

    You said Tatar, but did you mean Sheahan? Tatar definitely looks to be playing in the right league. He’s got all kinds of skill and already paid 4 years worth of dues in Grand Rapids.

  • Beans
    • Bob Lanz

      Like father like son score a ton of goals, hall of fame, whore your self out to the team that you’ll always be associated with

  • Bob Lanz

    I look forward to this duel tonight but am worried that if victory is not obvious and eminent a crisis of Amazonian forest like proportions may occur

  • Face of Boe

    I just read winging it motown, those folks over there really don’t have a high opinion of captain awesome. The writer and the commenters seem to think he is a little bitch.

    • steeg of their own

      The commentariat over there think that Scum are a good hockey team. Their opinions count for nothing.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Good response this morning, by the way.

    • Michael Scott

      So they’re genuine about that? Really?

    • mad-hatter

      I’m not sure they’ve ever gotten over Babcock comparing him to Yzerman.

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        I’ll never get over re-hashing it: when, at the Olympics, Babcock was asked what his best line was, and he said whoever Toews is playing with.

        • Z-man19

          Thornton?

          • 10thMountainFire

            Just did.

          • Z-man19

            I think Chico refuses to play along

          • 10thMountainFire

            That’s fine. I just did a second round for him.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I don’t understand either of you. I must have missed the thread, I’m in the dark.

          • Z-man19

            Do you recall what Thornton said after Hertl ( I think) scored 4-5 goals in a game?

          • Accipiter
          • Z-man19

            Think I’d Thornton if I could do that

          • Accipiter

            You switched to Thorntoning because you don’t want any more children.

          • Z-man19

            YES, that is exactly why

          • 1benmenno

            I’ve Thorntoned while doing that.

          • Z-man19

            I didn’t think hockey had been invented back then

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Now I get it. Next time PM me with a crib sheet when you make your jokes.

          • Z-man19

            It was probably while you were raking leaves. You may be the only person here who didn’t know what that meant. Try and keep up

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I’m always behind the times. Tonight may be worse. I’m in a hotel with an internet that works only in bursts. I’m going to be screaming trying to watch a feed.

          • chidiver
          • Z-man19

            Good man Chi

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            (I don’t understand this.)

          • Z-man19

            Does what Babcock said about 19 make you want to Thornton?

          • Accipiter

            It’s okay, you are the funny one.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I don’t mind getting laughs, it’s just when people always add that “fucking idiot” bit once they settle down.

          • Z-man19

            Who asked you?

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I think Joe gets a bad rap, and I don’t quite understand it. It’s pretty tough to argue with Canada’s decisions down the middle, though (Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf, Tavares), and I don’t think you can ask Joe to play wing.

            EDIT: Oops. Waylon. Sort of.

        • mad-hatter

          He’s pretty great. Although I don’t remember who Toews’ linemates were.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            He bounced all over and was one of the catalysts of stellar play when Babcock inserted him up and down the line-up. But mostly he settled in on a checking line with Nash and Morrow, I think?

          • Accipiter

            Toews, Nash and Richards played together the most, IIRC.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Richards, eh? Huh. My memory misplaced that one.

    • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ Matt McClure

      Well, based on some of the behavior in last year’s series, it’s not completely without merit.

      • Accipiter

        Yus, he was visibly frustrated and off his game. Not a good look for the Captain.

        • Z-man19

          A lesson learned I suspect

      • Bob Lanz

        Unfortunately this

    • 10thMountainFire

      Funny, having been through Detroit, I find the few that have remained in that dystopian pig trough to be more than a bit angsty themselves.

    • lizmcneill

      And they think making posters of Kaner’s mom telling him he sucks is hilarious and in good taste.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Motown is Lesstown.

  • Beans

    Ah finally, a true rivalry game for Wednesday night rivalry on nbcsn!

    • Bob Lanz

      This

  • DuHawk

    Hello friends.

    • Bob Lanz

      Du so good to visualize you!

      • DuHawk

        Hey Lanzer!

        • Joe Banks

          The Lanzinator…

      • Z-man19

        Zer

      • CozBullsFan

        Bob

      • 10thMountainFire

        Bob.

    • Z-man19

      The Duece

      • DuHawk

        Z.

        • Z-man19

          How you Duin?

          • DuHawk

            I’m cold, I hate winter, & I’m ready to play some fucking golf.

            I think I’ve shoveled my driveway 4 times in the last week. This shit is getting old.

          • Z-man19

            PREACH!!! If I wanted this crap, I’d live in Canada

          • 1benmenno

            If I wanted this crap, I’d live in Indiana.

      • CozBullsFan

        Z.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Z.

    • CozBullsFan

      Du

      • DuHawk

        Coz.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Coz.

        • CozBullsFan

          XMF

    • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

      Hi, I am still not Bob

      • DuHawk

        TMFF.

      • Joe Banks

        So we still have a shot at… er, you know…

      • 10thMountainFire

        Funny face.

    • Joe Banks

      How Du you du, Du…

      • DuHawk

        Evening Joe.

        • Joe Banks

          De Du Du Du, De Da Da Da,
          Is all I want to say to you…

          • 1benmenno

            The innocence will pull me through.

          • 10thMountainFire

            I’m Walking on the Moon.

          • 10thMountainFire

            That sounds like a Message in a Bottle.

      • 10thMountainFire

        JB.

    • VanDorp’sMullet

      The Duesnberg!

      • 10thMountainFire

        Mullet.

      • DuHawk

        Hello my mulletted friend.

    • 10thMountainFire

      Du.

      • DuHawk

        XMF.

  • 10thMountainFire

    Robo Cop looks like a documentary now. I fear it won’t be too long before the few remaining Detroit police are driving a Ford Taurus and made of synthetic material.

    But do what makes you feel good, Scum fans. Enjoy the waning years of Datsyuk and Zetterberg

    • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

      I am watching Rambo FB PII, and it is funny watching the “Macho” way they all shoot automatic rifles, from the hip.

      • 10thMountainFire

        You don’t do it that way? Hip-firing a 240B is what all the cool kids do.

        • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

          No believe it or not, I actually prefer to hit my target than look cool and totally miss it!

          • 10thMountainFire

            It’s in the field manual. And the Bible.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

            Good thing I am in the Navy because the Blue Jackets Manual tells us aim our fire!

      • 10thMountainFire
        • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

          No words………..!

          • 10thMountainFire

            I don’t usually watch war videos. That one was sent to me as an example of how hodge-podge they really are. But Rambo II has it going on. Detroit… WHHAAAAT!

          • 1benmenno

            What is going on in Detroit? Apart from the usual.

          • 10thMountainFire

            (crickets)

          • 10thMountainFire

            Completely and dangerous incompetent is an apt description. Dangerously bad.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

            Add completely clueless, the dude walked in front of (in line of the barrel) a mortar tube as he dropped the round in, lets not talk about grenade or AAG guys! lol

          • 10thMountainFire

            That’s one of my absolute favorites. Steps in front, other guy puts his ear to the tube. Round in it the entire time.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

            “Let’s go play with a grenade”, said nobody ever who survived to tell the tale.

          • 10thMountainFire

            The ZPU rotating to fire on his buddies was extra-special, too. He was put on timeout.

        • IndianHeadCrest

          That’s ahh…just…wow

        • chidiver

          That was priceless.

          • 10thMountainFire

            I can’t decide on my favorite but the guy who rotates the DsHKA to aim at the aircraft overhead and the mortarman whose buddy steps in front of the tube after a round is dropped in and then sticks his head to the tube to fire it are neck and neck.

    • jordyhawk

      I heard Detroit PD being replaced with ED 209s.

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

    I have no beer, but that is okay, I can watch the Hawks instead.

    • Joe Banks

      And it’s too late to make prison wine…

  • IndianHeadCrest

    Hello there!

    • CozBullsFan

      Evening!

    • Joe Banks

      How you doin?

      • IndianHeadCrest

        Been a loooong time since I’ve visited

    • Z-man19

      Holy shit, IHC LIVES. Good to see ya brother

      • IndianHeadCrest

        Likewise, Z

  • Joe Banks

    GO HAWKS GO.

    • 1benmenno

      Hey Joe. You ready to rock?

      • Joe Banks

        I’m out of my polar bear suit, and ready to kick it!
        Scotch glass set to stun.

        • 1benmenno

          All I got is Harp. And a song in my heart.

          • Joe Banks

            That’s all you need…

          • 1benmenno

            Yeah, but the song is Gwen Stefani’s “If I were a rich girl.”

          • 1benmenno

            Another Waylon. I’m on fire, Jerry.

  • Joe Banks

    Go Scotch go.

  • 1benmenno

    I change my own diapers, thank you very much. Oops, Waylon’d

    • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

      Well, that Depends

      • 1benmenno

        Tmff

        • Joe Banks

          Beware of… Dooknado!

    • Joe Banks

      Dude…

      • 1benmenno

        JB

        • Joe Banks

          Dewars

    • 10thMountainFire

      Ben.

      • 1benmenno

        XMF!

    • CozBullsFan

      HAHA Ben

      • 1benmenno

        Mi amigo, Cozby.

    • Z-man19

      Beno menno

      • 1benmenno

        Zeddo!

    • Joe Banks

      Well it sounds like you have your hands full then…

    • DuHawk

      Hello Ben.

      • 1benmenno

        Dubanger!

  • VanDorp’sMullet

    Probably gonna miss most of the 1st. Will see you guys later in the game. Don’t let Coz bogart the rum.

    • 1benmenno

      Dorp!

    • CozBullsFan

      Van. I have bottle and bottles of it in my back room. I can’t drink it all. lol

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

    Laaarmer got a new Avatar, I think he needs to come out and show it off to everyone

    • Z-man19

      I concur

  • chidiver

    Hi kids! Back to Hawkey! Last we met, Natalie Portman was offering body shots of scotch while quoting Charles de Baron Montesquieu. Now…lets get focused!

    • 1benmenno

      Chi.

      • chidiver

        Benton

        • Z-man19

          Chhhhh iiii

    • DuHawk

      Hello diver.

      • chidiver

        Duzer

    • 10thMountainFire

      I won’t be able to sleep tonight now.

      • chidiver

        You probably over-Thorntoned

        • 10thMountainFire

          I’m ok with this.

    • CozBullsFan

      Chi

  • 1benmenno

    I had my PC fixed today. Who knew laptops needed neutering.

    • Z-man19

      Only yours

  • DuHawk