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Overthinking, Over-Analyzing Separates The Body From The Mind: Hawks 1 – Kings 3 (Hawks lead 2-1)

Well, sometimes that’s gonna go happen.

I can’t decide what’s the more obnoxious trend after losses like this. The people actually losing their mind or the people so eager to make fun of the people losing their mind that they haven’t actually bothered to notice that no one is losing their mind. I’ll let you all debate that.

While the Hawks weren’t near the top of their game and the Kings certainly upped theirs, we’re talking about a broken-stick goal and some pretty nifty Quick saves in the 3rd leading to a one-goal loss in a building where the hosts haven’t lost in two months. Excuse me while I set my hair on fire. Oh wait, I don’t have any hair. So I guess we’ll just calm ourselves down with the notion that it was highly unlikely that the Hawks were going to get both of these games and move on to Thursday night. Deal?

Observations And The Like

-But you want analysis, so let me do my best. The Kings clearly were determined on not letting the Hawks have such an easy time of it out of their zone. And at home, where they can pick the matchups, they got to isolate Rozsival and Leddy against their top line and shield Voynov and Muzzin from having to do too much work in their own end where they struggle. And here you get tonight’s first goal where 8 and 32 got a little yippy, Voynov was allowed time to pick his head up, and there you go.

-The Kings also made sure to be more careful with their dump-ins and keep them away from Crow. While no one will ever confuse Crow’s puck-handling skills with Fatso or Mike Smith, he did a very effective job of either stopping the puck around the boards and letting someone retrieve it with speed or passing it himself past the first wave of Kings forecheckers. Tonight, you saw a lot more chips and cross-corners and off the glass, where they could be right on the first d-man to retrieve it. They also once again collapsed on the Hawk forward supporting, cutting off those short passes that the Hawks had used so well in the first two games to get out.

Next game the Hawks will have to do a better job of reversing the puck and moving it a little quicker to get themselves out of trouble. They may have to do more five-man breakouts than four-man, but at some point that will open up the chips into space in the neutral zone for their forwards to flag down.

-Ok, so I guess the big complaint tonight is Patrick Kane. Let’s address that. While we’d like more from Kane and have called for so all playoffs long, people are acting as if he can just turn on a switch and the Kings have nothing to do with it. Both Scum last round and L.A. this one probably have a list of tasks somewhere, and I bet stopping Kane is right near the top if not first. As soon as Kane gets the puck he has two guys flying at him, and Handzus isn’t quick enough to get somewhere to give him an outlet. Kane seemed to be cycling back more to try and get the puck deep and carry it up, but even there the Kings improvised and cut off his space.

Asking Kane to go flying into people along the boards and suddenly turn into T.J. Oshie or something is folly. Yeah, he probably could try and engage a little more in some scrums, but he’s not going to physically dominate anyone.

Q could give him some help by flipping him with Hossa, so that Bickell and Toews could open up some space for him better than Sharp and Handzus can. But I’ve been saying that so much my throat has become stripped to the point I’m vulnerable to the cancer you get from going down on Catherine Zeta Jones, apparently (a trade I think a lot of us would happily make, by they by).

It’s not that Kane isn’t trying or doesn’t care or whatever other Seuss-ian nonsense is floating out there. He’s being specifically targeted. And with those two guys flying at him all the time, that’s why Handzus has had more space than we ever thought he’d get.

-Despite his silly high-sticking penalty, Duncan Keith continues to be everywhere. Best he’s played since 2010, if not even better than that.

-This was one of my points about the Kings before this series, and that’s they really struggle to get away from you. They don’t have the offensive punch, especially without Richards and Kopitar struggling, to blow you out. While they were dominant for most of the first two periods, they let the Hawks hang around and that’s going to bite them in some other game they lead somewhere around here. Usually they’ll take those odds because Quick makes it work. Not so sure it will here every time.

-Jeff Carter was excellent, especially in his own end, which is not a part of the game I thought he had.

-Drew Doughty was mostly strong, but his bad tendencies came out to let the Hawks back into this one. He chased into the corner after the draw even though Regehr had Hossa covered. Even if he hadn’t fallen down, he wasn’t getting back to Bickell who had all day to walk out in front. He simply tries to do too much at times, which is natural for someone still only 23.

-I thought that was as smooth and controlled as Crawford has looked all playoffs. As good as he’s been, there are games where he’s making the saves but he doesn’t look square or fluid. Tonight he did.

-Dave Bolland played 7 minutes. And that’s with some penalty kill time. It’s obvious the book on him is shut.

-Hawks 24-and-34 at the dot. That’s not going to get it done. And that’s with Andrew Shaw winning 8 of his 10.

-Oduya’s game is heading in a direction that doesn’t make me feel good things in my tummy. Stop the rot.

While everyone is going to say it’s a series now, that can be mostly snuffed out with a win on Thursday. Which wouldn’t have been all that far away tonight. I kind of feel like I did after Game 3 against Minny, not that the Kings aren’t significantly better than the Wild. They are, but it feels like the Hawks don’t have to change all that much to overturn a pretty small margin here. That’s what I look for in Game 4.

  • DJ

    Last paragraph says it all.

  • Mike

    Yup, I watched the game and felt “whatever”. Hawks played an off game and it was still close. On to the next, with feeling.

    • Country_Bumpkin

      This. I was a bit pissed but not too butthurt.

  • jackattack

    “I kind of feel like I did after Game 3 against Minny…”

    That was the first thing I said once the ENG went in. The momentum was completely flipped in the 3rd. We finished incredibly strong, but it was too little too late, with some unlucky bounces that could’ve led to goals and a few huge saves by Quick. This was a loss that is necessary in a Cup run… a loss to learn from, and draw momentum from despite losing.

    Nothing is fucked, dude.

    PS: I’m all in on my prediction for a cumulative 4+ point night from Toews and Kane on Thursday. Kaner had a few moments where he was very close to shaking out the cobwebs, but either couldn’t due to defense or his pass or move was off by a bit. The explosion is coming.

  • Preacher

    And at the risk of offending the hockey gods, I’d love to see Crow put up a clean score sheet next game. Given how well he’s played, he’s owed one. (I’ll sacrifice a virgin or something now.)

    • jackattack

      His rebound control tonight was nothing short of masterful. He swallowed seemingly every hard shot that came at him.

      • QCBlackhawk

        Noticed this in a way I was not able to put into coherent thoughts. I was going with “solid” or some shit, but now that you say it I definitely feel like absorbing shots is exactly what I was noticing.

        • Country_Bumpkin

          Crow played tall in the net and I thought played really well and looks much more comfortable than last year. However, his team kept fucking him with stupid penalties all night and were setting him up for failure. I will say the goals scored to his blocker side are starting to concern me. Williams and Carter have both scored from that spot.

          • ‘hawks58

            Both one-timers to the short side with Crow sliding left to right. I could be wrong, but earlier in the year didn’t he miss a couple to his blocker because he was overaggressive and it went between his arm and body? If so, maybe he’s made a concentrated effort at keeping his arm close to his body longer? Or I could be completely wrong :)

            Either way, he struggles catching pucks from time to time, so I think I’d rather they attacked his blocker. He seems to be pretty good with it when not put in that one particular situation (sliding left to right with a one-timer coming from the faceoff dot area).

  • jackattack

    Also, Hammer deserves a shopping spree at Ikea for the intestinal fortitude he displayed tonight. I can’t think of many guys in the league that would take a slapper to the IT-band and then muster their way to their feet only to go to the ice for another block with the body.

    • DesertHawk

      All the meatballs for him.

    • Accipiter

      I don’t think the IT-band is where you think it is.

      • DesertHawk

        I don’t think it’s where you think it is. Or you guys are disagreeing on where Hammer got hit.

        • Accipiter

          He got hit on the inside of the left knee, unless I am not recalling correctly.

          • DesertHawk

            I thought it was outside, but I can’t remember now.

          • Accipiter

            Definitely inside of the left knee.

          • DesertHawk

            Your words, I’ll take them.

          • Accipiter

            The main point is a valid one. Hjalmarsson is as tough as nails.

          • Ingmar Bergman

            Great point here. Hjammer is as good as they get. You can really see why Bowman tried to lock this guy up after the Hawks took the Holy Grail in 2010. Hjammer has the heart and soul of a champion and will risk personal safety for the good of the team.

            Now if we can only get Seabrook, Kane, Taser, and Oduya (would someone please give this guy a tongue lashing) to buy into that, too. I don’t see any of those players trying to stop shots and risking long term injury. I’m just saying.

            To quote the great Orval Tessier, “This team is in need of heart transplants.” I wouldn’t go that far with this squad, but some of our players do need it!

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            You got this one nailed, bro. If dudes ain’t gonna be scoring, dudes need to be taking one on the knee or in the chiclets. We got lucky in Games 1 & 2. Game 3 should serve as the clarion call to the true champions on this team or else a team so full of heart and the will to win like the Kings will eat them alive. It’s like my old buddy Zap Stranghorn always says, this team [whoever you're rooting for, in this case, Da' Hawks!] gotta shit out this win or get off the pot.

          • 1benmenno

            When discussing the failures of our local sports team, Zap Stranghorn always told me they ought to fish or cut bait.

          • Z-man19

            Biscuit took one in the biscuits earlier this year, must have been one of the games you didn’t have tickets for

          • laaarmer

            Can we get an ignore boat?

    • BigCSouthside

      Yeah, that was some hard shit there. I just couldnt believe they allowed play to continue.

      • MySpoonIsTooBig

        It didn’t surprise me that they allowed the play to continue as the entire time that Hjammer was actually on the ice the Kings had the puck. Pretty similar to when Hjammer crushed Franzen and then Kane scored and half of Detroit was pissing themselves and crying about the refs not blowing the play dead.

        What pissed me off last night though is that the refs punished the ‘Hawks for Hjammer being ALL THAT IS MAN. He couldn’t move, and thus he couldn’t really defend, but he also couldn’t allow himself to just lie there and do nothing so he willed himself back to his feet. The whistle should have blown the second the ‘Hawks gained possession, but it did not because Hjammer didn’t just lie on the ice like Mike Smith (or Johan Franzen for that matter). The fact that he stood up on one leg should not have negated the refs obligation to stop play due to injury the second the ‘Hawks got the puck, he couldn’t fucking skate and had to be helped to the bench by one of the linesmen

        • justforkicks

          I feel like what happened with the wings was different because the play had moved on from where dude was laid out and was in fact out of the zone. Hjammer was right in the middle of the damn play and in danger of getting hurt further by just being laid out. I feel like that should have been whistled and would say that for any player.

          • ‘hawks58

            The Franzen play was different, but there was a play similar to the Hjalmarsson block in the Wings series where Smith blocked a shot, went down, and didn’t move until play was stopped.

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            I agree with you that play should have been stopped, and I agree that I’d say that regardless of who was down or what team the injured player is on. My point was more that, regardless of what SHOULD happen, this is one of the few areas in which the NHL has been pretty consistent over the years as to how it is handled. If a player goes down, short of a life-or-death emergency situation the refs do not blow the whistle until the injured players’ team touches the puck. That’s why, though I wasn’t happy, I was not particularly surprised that play continued as Hjammer was down since the Kings maintained possession.

    • nextgame
    • Steve S

      While I agree has has stones of steel….why does he turn his leg to open his knee bone ? I was taught at an early age to never turn, block striaght on. What good does padding do if you don’t use it ?

      • MySpoonIsTooBig

        Don’t wanna dent the shin pads, that shit is expensive

    • Ronnie’s Mustache

      He took a puck to the cock on Sunday too.

      For such a young guy, Hjalmarsson plays with a lot of discipline

  • The Doctor

    The knock on Kane tonight isn’t for lack of production. It’s for passing or trying to stick handle with guys charging at him when he clearly has a great scoring opportunity. We all know he’s a talented guy and yes he’s going to get more coverage in the playoffs, but his decision making tonight was very sub-par. One particular instance in the last minutes of the 3rd comes to mind, and if the “masterminds” at NBCSN can see it, I don’t understand why it’s so hard for Hawks fans to do so as well.

    • Ingmar Bergman

      The one thing that has always bothered me about Kane is that he plays “soft.” The guy plays as if he’s afraid to get checked or hit hard (he’s really afraid of getting hurt in the most ultimate mano to mano of sports games). Savard was about the same size, but Denny was tougher mentally.

      Unless Kane can get rid of his “Wimp” factor, we may not be hearing too many positive things about him for the rest of the playoffs. I wish Q would act like a Drill Instructor to him and perhaps give him more of an edge.

      • The Doctor

        Shh…shh…shh. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Go back to wishing for an invisible 2010 Hoss.

        “Wimp factor?” What fucking spot-on hockey analysis you have there. How Pierre McGuirre-esqu of you.

        • Ingmar Bergman

          Gee … thanks Doc. I needed a total take down and you really provided that. Now, I just need to take my meds and I can sleep in peace.

          • The Doctor

            Absolutely no evidence to prove your lack of insight. Please tell me again how much you love Crosby, Pierre.

          • Ingmar Bergman

            Pierre McGuirre is phony idiot. The guy knows absolutely nothing about hockey yet he gets the best seat in the house for every fucking game. I do like Sid the Kid, though.

          • The Doctor

            Don’t be so hard on yourself, PM.

          • QCBlackhawk

            You meant BL

          • The Doctor

            His persistence is admirable.

          • QCBlackhawk

            It’s pretty fucking sad, actually.

          • The Doctor

            Preach.

          • Preacher

            Hmmm? Somebody call?
            Sorry, but I’m not getting in on this one at all.

          • Z-man19

            err BLou

          • 1benmenno

            You think? That would make sense.

          • Z-man19

            Yes I do, the evidence keeps getting stronger

          • Joe DeTolve

            That’s why he has two rings as an assistant coach under the man who is the namesake for the headquarters of USA Hockey and the coach that took over for him after he died of cancer who has his name on the Stanley Cup 9 times…But Pierre doesn’t know anything..

          • Why

            Do Americans like Pierre? Is it possible that you will keep him?

            Please keep him.

          • Joe DeTolve

            I like Pierre…But I also realize that his shtick on TV is awkward and annoying..He is on the morning show in Ottawa everyday for about 20 minutes and you wont find better analysis iMO.

          • BigCSouthside

            Honestly hate to defend Pierre.

            The dude knows hockey. He is biased and it annoys the piss out of me, but he knows his shit.

          • Country_Bumpkin

            I will say he called out the lack of Pens’ defence during Monday night’s tilt. He actually sounded pissed at the Pens complete brain-fart on coverage in their zone.

      • Z-man19

        Finally, you got to Kane being soft. I was wondering when you would go there

        • lizmcneill

          Kane is probably all of 170lbs, he’s not going to be a lot of use ground into the boards.

      • Why

        Kane’s not generally my cup of tea either but he’s capable of quickly generating speed and taking on defenceman.

        However, I’m more interested in the term “sports games”.

      • BigCSouthside

        Part of Kane’s game is actually being able to craftily avoid getting hit. Hes not that big, and wont be able to do things like Hossa or Toews does with the puck. Kane deliberately avoids checks because if he can get someone to commit to blowing him up and he gets around (which he does a lot), he’s taken a guy out of the play and created space.

        Kane is a finesse player. It does not make him weak or wimpy, its just a really smart way to use what he has.

        That said, sometimes hes way too cute with the puck. I love me some toe drag depantsing of D men, but when they have you figured for that, just shovel the puck towards the net and hope someone you created space for just by being Patrick Kane cleans up the trash.

      • Waylon

        I don’t know what you mean about Savard being tougher “mentally,” but his game was similar to Kanes, in that he used his elusiveness to evade D – Men and checking along the boards. BTW, I still remember Kane pushing the puck up the ice against the Nucks at the end of game 7 in Vancouver, and he purposely took a giant and illegal head shot from Bieksa right at their blue line, and nothing was called. Guy had a welt the size of my right butt check on his forehead after the game, and there’s video to prove it.

        • Joe DeTolve

          Its because he smoked in the dressing room…That made him more of man..

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            I’m not sure if I agree with that statement. I mean, if he was smoking Marlboros or Camels sure, but what if he was smoking Virginia Slims?

          • Joe DeTolve

            Probably Du Maurier shipped from Pointe Gatineau

        • 334Rules

          Today’s game is also entirely different than the one played in Savvy’s era. But Savvy also had – and needed – effective bodyguards on the ice (as did Gretzky). Opponents didn’t refrain from annihilating 18 because they thought he was tough, but because guys like Al Secord would pound the living shit out of them if they took liberties. And it wouldn’t be some dancing, staged, tap-out fight like you see today.

      • http://twitter.com/Bobby_Otter Bobby Otter

        Go watch MMA.

    • BigCSouthside

      Agreed on Kane. He was too cute with the puck.

      • justforkicks

        Imo Kane plays differently depending on what position the hawks are in. When they are playing cohesively and generating chances, he tends to be better on both sides of the ice and plays smart and more aggressive. When the hawks are down and losing their minds, he floats and tries to be all offense and do it all himself (and ends up trying to be too cute and less effective)

  • Ingmar Bergman

    There’s no time to panic (yet) here. The Hawks took their best shot and we still had a good chance in this game. The save Quick made on Bickell was on the highlight reels and for good reason.

    Panic time is if LA wins game 4 and 5. Let’s get worried then if that happens.

    • 1benmenno

      This is a reasonable response. Your post above is a desperate plea for attention.

      • Paul the Fossil

        Remember, the medication has to be taken at the same time every day in order to work evenly.

    • BigCSouthside

      Honestly, I dont even think that was the hawks best shot. They were better in the 3rd than the 1st, and they lost their cool a bit. I think what we saw last night was more in line with the best that LA has. A few changes in line strategy (like swapping Kane and Hoss or something like that), a few changes is puck possession strategy (like more methodical zone breakouts, maybe using reverse passing to get forecheckers to bite on the puck carrier and break out with the forechecker behind the play), a little more discipline, and I can see taking the next game by two goals.

      LA got a perfect game scenario. Early first goal on a defensive brainfart. A fluky bounce goal. A lot of man advantage without taking many penalties which seriously helped limit pucks Quick had to save ( i’ll be honest, some calls were missed). Quick making enormous saves.

      While they played well, I think the game last night exposed their offense as more or less impotent. All of those things in their favor, and they still had limited high quality opportunities, and couldnt bag another until there wasnt someone in pads standing in front of the Hawks net.

      What you saw last night was a perfect environment for LA hockey. What you saw from the Hawks was not their best outing, and it was still a fly fart from being 2-2 with very little time left.

      • laaarmer

        fly fart.
        classic

    • nextgame

      Bipolar?

  • Ingmar Bergman

    Folks, I watched NBC’s special “NHL 36″ on the behind the scenes with the Blackhawks this year and I was shocked by how much of a softie that Q is. This guy is worse than Terry Francona when it comes to discipline. I honestly couldn’t believe what I was watching.

    I would have to say that the Hawks need Mike Keenan to come back. We need someone who’s not going to put up with flat performances, lame excuses, whining, and lackadaisical effort. There is no excuse for it in the playoffs. None.

    Do you think Keenan would put up with Kane’s crappy, unmotivated effort night after night?

    Do you think Keenan would put up with Toews scoring draughts and lack of leadership? I don’t know if Toews could lead a whore to bed … and I’m not trying to be funny. I’m dead serious.

    Do you think Keenan would put up with Seabrook’s carelessness and lack of inspired play?

    Folks, we need someone who the players fear. A real hard ass. Someone who isn’t afraid to get in the faces of the prima donnas. You can’t coddle modern day players as they need to be pushed.

    • The Doctor

      Yeah, the guy they fear will lead them to the cup, just like Torts did with the Rangers. Just like that one guy that did it in 2010 with the Hawks…what was his name again…I think it started with a Q and ended in an uenneville.

      Morons are funny people.

      • Ingmar Bergman

        You’re missing the whole point, dumbass. The job of a coach is to get the most out of his players. Nothing more. Nothing less.

        When that stops happening and when you see some of the lethargic stages that our Hawks have been in, you need to make a change at the top.

        Some great coaches have been fired before. Casey Stengel, Vince Lombardi, Red Auerbach, Mike Keenan, Bill Walsh, Scotty Bowman, and John Wooden.

        • The Doctor

          Where was this comment when the Hawks had won 5 in a row? All I saw was “Hossa sucks.”

          I can’t take you seriously if you flip-flop from one game to the next.

        • QCBlackhawk

          Yeah, the team who came back from a 3-1 deficit and then proceeded to dickwhip LA the first 2 games is lethargic. And fuck you in your stupid ad hominem face. “Dumbass”.

        • Why

          Does Quenneville get credit for the play of Bickell and Crawford?

        • guest

          Clearly over the long term these lethargic starts are an obvious trend, that’s why we barely snuck into the playoffs after a horrendous regular.. wait? What’s that? We won the president’s trophy and had far and away the most consistent high-level play in the league? Oh, huh, I guess your argument’s shit then..

          Not to say that winning the Canucks Cup means anything in the grander scheme of things, but I’d say it’s a compelling argument that our top guys aren’t exactly taking the year off..

        • Z-man19

          John Wooden got fired?

          • Country_Bumpkin

            No, he dead.

          • roadhog

            Mr. Bergman, I met John Wooden, I discussed coaching with John Wooden, a friend of mine was very close to John Wooden, Mr. Bergman- Mike Keenan is no John Wooden.

        • FattyBeef

          Are you on drugs? The team was by far the best in the league during the regular season and is in the Western Conference finals. How does that constitute a coach getting fired?

        • OMFS88

          lol wut?

        • Gabble Ratchet

          One of these things is not like the others…

        • MySpoonIsTooBig

          Now you’re just making shit up. Most of those men retired on their own terms. Casey Stengel was pushed into retirement by the Yankees (the Yankees with high managerial turnover? shocking) because they thought he was too old. Vince Lombardi retired from the Packers, decided to come back with the ‘Skins, and then died after only coaching them for one season. Red Auerbach was never fired, he started coaching the Celtics in 1950 and worked his way up the organization (retired from coaching, not fired, in 1966) and was the president and vice chairman of the organization from 1984 until his death in 2006. Bill Walsh was never fired, he retired from coaching immediately after winning Super Bowl XXIII. Wooden retired, was not fired, in 1975. Scotty Bowman was never fired – when he left bench of the Blues in 1971, the Canadiens in 1979, the Sabres in 1986, the Penguins in 1993, and finally the Red Wings in 2002 each time he stepped down and left of his own volition.

          The only guy you listed that was ever fired was Mike Keenan.

          • Joe DeTolve

            and Keenan was the only fired because His Dog and Pony show grows tired after about two years….I really wish “the fire and the passion” argument would just die already.

          • Paul the Fossil

            Tell your reality-based comments to shut up.

        • http://twitter.com/Bobby_Otter Bobby Otter

          Bergman, do you hate the 2010 Blackhawks too?

        • Bob Lanz

          Your the dumbass with your uneducated rants, moron. Keenan had a great team no ring. Q got one just a few years ago. U might want to look it up. Ass hat trolling idiot

        • Mike

          Oooh, he called you a dumbass! It’s ON, girlfriend!

    • QCBlackhawk
      • Joe DeTolve

        My head exploded six seperate times this morning!

        • BigCSouthside

          Ill get a mop

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      Man, bro. You are on fire! If Q-soft doesn’t have the balls to yank Kaner off the ice and just yell at him “SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!” for a full minute without taking a breathe so that q-tip gets the point, he ain’t fit to coach in any United States of American Hockey League. I mean, he needs to take Kaner by his face, all Hollywood-like, get about 3″ from his lips and instead of frenching the little guy, lay the extended remix of the Half-Season Ticket Holder on him. And when he’s done, he sends mullet-bullet back on the ice and taps his ass real hard with Razor’s stick and says “NOW. FUCKING. HIT. SOMEBODY!”

      • Z-man19

        don’t forget 35 years in hockey

    • BigCSouthside

      Yeah…let me tell you something about top caliber atheletes

      They arent fucking children, and this isnt a fucking highschool team. Top level atheletes dont need to be pushed. At all. Period.

      Do you think Gretzky needed his coach to “get in his face”? How about Jordan, or Payton, or Michael Phelps?

      Do you honestly think that Jonathan Toews needs some old fucker to yell at him because he’s “flat”?

      People like that are far harder on themselves than anyone else could be. People like that dont just LIKE to win they ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HATE losing. A coach to them is someone who manages the strategy and not much more.

    • Why

      Mike, is this you? If so, are you pissed about having to coach the Metallurg Magnitogorsk? It doesn’t seem fair to me either and I’m not even sure if which one of those is the city and which one is the nickname.

      However, Quenneville has won one cup. You have also won one cup. Maybe they’ll give you Alain Vigneault’s old gig but I think this one may be taken for the foreseeable future.

      • Country_Bumpkin

        Doesn’t Francona have two WS rings?

        • Why

          Yes. As I understand it, the team decided to replace Francona prior to the 2012 season. The decision was probably partially based on fan pressure for change.

          Early results were not good:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Boston_Red_Sox_season

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            Hilariously enough the man who replaced Francona, led the Red Sox to that disastrous season, and was rightfully fired the day after the season ended, is exactly the kind of manager that Ingmar ” Actually BLou” Bergman thinks the ‘Hawks need. Bobby Valentine is a fiery, volatile manager who certainly falls into the category of a “real hard ass” who “isn’t afraid to get in the faces of the prima donnas”. Under Francona the Red Sox won their first 2 world series since 1918, under Valentine the Red Sox had their first 90+ loss season since 1966.

            Basically, what I’m trying to say is that Bergman is dumb.

          • laaarmer

            Of all the gin joints….
            /

    • Aaron

      Actually a scoring draught could be exactly what Toews needs … I’ll just be down in my lab if anyone needs me.

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      Mr. Bergman, what you’ve just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    • Korab22

      C’mon dude. Work the steps. You’re a meatball and your life has become unmanageable. There is hope for you, but you need to surrender.

      • Accipiter

        Serenity now. Serenity now.

        • ‘hawks58

          Insanity later.

    • http://twitter.com/Bobby_Otter Bobby Otter

      It’s a TV show. Seek help.

    • CommonSense1957

      What?

    • Paul the Fossil

      Hey look, mhsilver’s 8th-grade cousin figured out how to create a login.

    • Mike

      Haha lookout we got a real badass over here

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Tortella’s available. Maybe we could hire him as a special coach to give Q lessons in Mean.

  • WTF

    Someone should buy Keith a Jeff Carter Jersey so he can wear that around LA

  • BigCSouthside

    Did anyone else see Sutter’s presser? Most disinterested winning head coach ever.

    • Z-man19

      words just don’t seem to want to come out of his mouth in the correct order, that or I’m just not able to understand what the words are.

    • Preacher

      That’s because he’s tough! Like a drill sergeant. Yells at his players a lot. That’s why he’s successful!

      • BigCSouthside

        I forget what question was asked, but he let out an epic “you are an unimaginable douche bag for asking that, and I dont even want to acknowledge you” sigh. The whole presser seemed like he was a kid forced to eat his vegetables and do his homework or he couldn’t go play with his friends. I laughed my ass off.

      • BigCSouthside

        And in regards to the Drill Sergeant comment (which I know you were being sarcastic). As anyone who has ever served can tell you, the yelling shit is effective for only about the first two weeks of Basic. Then its more or less just background noise where you listen for keywords and try not to laugh at the ridiculous shit that Drills spew when they are really getting into it.

    • laaarmer

      He’s a muppett

  • laaarmer

    Been watching Leddy for a while with you guys. He can skate and is a fairly good D man. He needs a new trick. The skate into the other teams zone and turn it over behind the net leaving the likes of Stalberg back to play D is getting old. His speed gets him in the zone, then he goes into brain overload. Not just last night, but nearly every game. Obviously, it isn’t bad enough to cost many games, but it’s something the kid needs to work on, if that is even possible (to increase intelligence that is).
    And then there’s Oduya. Who knows what he is thinking half the time.
    How many icings did Seabrook have?
    Keith whiffed on the broken stick goal. Too bad.
    Jeff Carter slashed Keith in the hand without the glove. I’m glad he is OK, but he got what he deserved. What a pussy. Keith should not aplogize unless carter did the same. Carter tried to injure Keith
    I used to like Dustin Brown
    Maybe the worst officiating ever.
    I thought they were going to pull it out last night.
    Finally, take your time Andrew. You have all night to clear the zone.

    • BigCSouthside

      Dustin Brown is a bag of dicks.

      I think it was a good move for Keith to apologize. He meant to tag him, but not put one in his face.

      • laaarmer

        If Carter broke Keiths hand you think that asshole would apololgize? I guess Keith is the bigger man.
        Who punches Carter in the chin first? I’m going with Shaw.

        • BigCSouthside

          Shaw would fight Evander Holyfield if he thought it would help.

          I just want to see Brown get fucking obliterated. He got away with too much last night

          • laaarmer

            Doesn’t Bickell look immune to everything that is going on? He is living the dream right now.

          • SaadBuster

            Bickell’s a fucking beast. I’ve always liked him, but right now he’s playing out of his mind. Trade the Rat, sell a Zamboni, something so we can afford to keep Bicks around.

          • laaarmer

            You think Browns hit on Sharp was butt end? It looked like it to me.
            What about Sharp? Dude, just score goals and try not to allow too many.

          • Accipiter

            I was hoping Sharpy would get his stick up in Browns face on that play, puck was long gone.

      • Accipiter

        Just a reminder to Carter, no glove, no love.

    • nextgame

      ‘Maybe the worst officiating ever.’

      What a surprise with Walkom & Furlatt working the game. Probably the two worst officals in the league, IMO.

    • Why

      I’m with you on Leddy. He has tremendous speed and stickhandling ability for a defenceman. He can be a one man break out. His decision-making and passing skills in the offensive zone on the rush have left left something to be desired. Correctable problem but it’d be nice to see some chances after 115 feet of awe inspiring speed.

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    Yeah, we sucked, we took stupid penalties (not just Duncs), we failed to hustle at times (Shaw on the offside that prevented a 2 on 0 and whomever was supposed to track down that puck before the empty netter), We had fewer shots on goal than Duncs has teeth left, we did everything they wanted us to do, they did everything they wanted to do themselves….

    And it still took Quick being Quick to secure the win.

    This isn’t a series until we say it’s a series // Belushi (the good one)

    It’s not about taking a loss in the playoffs, it’s about how you respond. I expect the Hawks to respond Thursday night.

  • http://twitter.com/Bobby_Otter Bobby Otter

    I thought the Hawks were okay, sure the second period wasn’t much to write home about, but they were only down a goal. Kings played better and got the forecheck going last night. Kings probably got away with some chippy stuff, but that’s to be expected in the playoffs. And the Hawks took way too many stupid penalties.

    I think it was pointed out here, but the reason why Sharp has all this space is because Kane has two guys on him at all times. It’s an interesting trade off the Kings are making and not really working imo. But yes, time to recreate Daydream Nation.

    Bryan Bickell, meet Chris Kontos. Only hopefully richer for your sake. (And when everyone starts shouting RESIGN BICKELL! Remember he’s 27 already).

    Blah, can’t win them all.

  • http://twitter.com/Bobby_Otter Bobby Otter

    Also, not that it probably mattered, but do we know why that wasn’t icing at the end of the game?

    • laaarmer

      Because they didn’t call icing?
      (for you badger)

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      I saw the linesman waiving it off immediately as the puck was cleared out of the zone, but I still have no idea why

    • Steve S

      The puck appeared to have tipped a Hawk stick at the blue line.

  • 334Rules

    There was NO WAY the Hawks were gonna sweep this series (just as I feel that it’s highly unlikely the Bs will finish off Pitt in 4). Playoff hockey is too damn hard; your opponent too damn good to just roll up in a ball because you horsed them but good two in a row.

    So we take this loss, learn the lessons it offers, and look to gain back the advantage in game 4, followed by handshakes at home on Saturday night.

  • CommonSense1957

    Re: Kaner – remember when Q switched him to left wing and got the Flyers all discombobulated? Game 4 would be a perfect time to try something like that or maybe to move Sharp to center — just to get the Kings thinking too hard and moving slower. All we need is a few more nanoseconds of time to get the goal that will probably make the difference. It’s too bad Bolland isn’t apparently up to playing 3-line center. If he was, moving Saad or Stalberg to play with Kaner and Sharp would be interesting.