Moving Like A Tortoise Full Of Rigor Mortis: Blackhawks 1 – Wild 2

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With only 31.2 seconds left on the clock, Patrick Kane fired a puck over the shoulder of Kuemper. It was the first and only time the Hawks found the back of the net tonight and was also just about the only thing that you can put down as a positive for the night. With Kane’s goal, his first Dec 28th, the Hawks avoided being shut out for the first time since a loss to the Kings on Feb 25th back in 2012.

Funny that Sam’s opening paragraph of the preview today was filled with such guarded optimisim (“they might not need top gear or anything resembling it to get past a crumbling Minnesota team”) because nothing resembling top gear was even approached until a last minute flurry to save their ass. The Hawks took lazy stupid penalties, couldn’t be bothered to adapt their plan of attack and couldn’t get a second chance to save their lives.

And in the end, it still has all the stink of a mid-January game that no one will remember in a few weeks after the Olympic hullaballoo dies down. If the Hawks continue to play like this, the rest of the season is going to be a long maddening stretch… but there’s no reason to think it’s anything more than a blip as the Hawks look forward to the ride home for their last game at the UC until March 4th.

BULLETS

  • Well hell, today is such a mess that I can’t get our photo service to work or my “bullets” logo to show up. I’m sure you’re all devastated by the lack of mid-nineties District nostalgia. My sincerest apologies.
  • Today’s game was such a write off that even Q demoted Hossa from the top line for a short stretch after taking a bad slashing call. It’s an interesting choice on two fronts. One – it’s taking apart one of the most dangerous lines in the NHL for the sake of making a point. Two – it let us see what the top line would be like with Steeger riding the wing. It was our thought that Steeger was a great pick up because he’s been a decent penalty killer. As of yet, the Hawks have failed to use him in this capacity. Even in a game where there were plenty of chances (more on that later) Steeg didn’t see a second of short handed time. That’s not saying the Versteeg experiment hasn’t been worth it. As we’ve pointed out in the past, Steeg’s line continues to be possession monsters and tonight’s was no change. Versteeg led the team in Corsi% (80%). We’re not likely to see The Red Wedding line broken up anytime soon but it’s nice to see Q play around with it when nothing else is working.
  • Oh, Kane’s goal wasn’t the only positive note. The Hawks penalty kill was once again perfect (27th with a bullet!). Of course, the Hawks had the chance to improve that stat since they were all too willing to head to the box. For the second straight game, the Hawks gave the opposing team a full 2 minute 5-on-3 power play and for the second straight game, the Hawks killed it off. Yet they lost both games. So please, tell us what Q says about extended 5-on-3s again?
  • Raanta once again showed he’s a capable back up at the moment but that he’s not the second coming by any stretch. Matt Cooke’s goal was just a stinker… but just about everything he does is a stinker.
  • With Keith out of the picture, we’re once again reminded about just how valuable he is. He’s been brilliant defensively but in a game like this we see just how much the Hawks depend on him to get the game going the other way. The neutral zone was a disaster tonight for the Hawks.
  • Ho hum. We might get word of a bag skate tomorrow.
  • wardrums

    I guess another positive is no one got hurt. After the first period I thought we notched up the physicality quite a bit -especially the second period. I thought we deserved at least one goal for our efforts in that frame.

    I liked the way the “Dead Beat Club Line” played also. Bickell seemed a lot more noticeable out there last night- loved the way Foley and EddyO through him under the bus the first chance they got.
    Why does it seem that Said is always a few strides ahead of Kane and Shaw? Is he Cherry picking?

    Man, was the Random Line Generator smoking in the third period, or what?!

    • lizmcneill

      Is it just me, or do the Hawks tend to break out on the left if they have the option? Makes sense for Red Wedding to have Sharpy and his wheels to start the rush with Hossa and Toews working the boards/staying low, but with the middle six your tiny fast dudes are on the right. If Kaner and Mutt are deep, Saad’s in the right place but I don’t see why it would happen that way around more frequently.

      • wardrums

        “Your tiny fast dudes!” – anther way of saying “are delicate ones?”

        One thing I noticed is the Wild did a decent job of minimizing Kaners speed.

      • Fleshrifle

        When you say left do you mean opposing goalie left or Hawks left? I think the lone man breaks are usually on the goalies left. Hossa, Toews, Sharp, come from that direction.

        • lizmcneill

          Hawks’ left. Like I said it’s just an impression.

    • Bannerman

      “Man, was the Random Line Generator smoking in the third period, or what?!”
      Because I am desparate to avoid getting any work done, here’s the Hawks line up in alphabetical order (which isn’t really random in the truest sense of the word but I found this interesting)
      Bickell Bollig Handzus
      Hossa Kane Kruger
      Saad Sharp Shaw
      Smith Toews Versteeg

      • wardrums

        As Pistachio would say in the Movie ‘Master of Disguise,’ “That’s crazy, so crazy it just might work!”

        Actually, they aren’t all that bad. What method do you use when picking the ponies?

  • Say what again

    I see the word “blip” more and more these days…..

    • lizmcneill

      January has been an extended blip. A bleep?
      Welp, 20 teams would be glad to be playing .591 hockey.

      • Oregon_hawk

        maybe we upgrade it to a creep.

      • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

        But 28 teams don’t have our talent.

        • cliffkoroll

          And 29 teams have more regulation losses. The Hawks are overachievers!

          • Accipiter

            I like our people.
            (even Bollig)

          • Bullitt315

            If I ever manage to make it to a meet up, I’m going to have to drop $150 to get a Bollig Jersey. My inner troll must be satisfied.

          • laaarmer

            You have to get that Bollig jersey with ACCIPITER on the back
            (full circle)

          • Accipiter

            Must be Stadium Series !!!!

          • Bannerman

            I was at a ski resort in Pa. where I saw a guy with a 00 Griswold stadium series jersey.

        • ballyb11

          Man, if we ever get a lot of injuries!! The sky will fall.

    • Bannerman

      “It’s just a blip, don’t worry about it.”- The radar guy at Pearl Harbor.
      The difference here is that no team plays with playoff level intensity for an entire 82 game season.

      • SuperHawk27

        Seems like every game the Hawks play, the other team has a playoff level intensity. That’s what happens when you’re the champs!

        • Say what again

          Playoff level intensity? Is that what it should take to beat a beat-up Wild team? Look, I’m not jumping off the ledge here but I don’t see the Ducks or the Blues letting their foot (feets?) off the gas. It was a bad loss with points squandered. And glaring problems look much glaringer in such displays.

          • SuperHawk27

            Yeah, teams step up their games, as stupid as it sounds, when they play the Hawks. Sometimes the Hawks can match them, days like tonight, they didn’t seem up for it.

            PK was good, and don’t forget the Hawks didn’t have Keith either, your Norris trophy front-runner.

            This Hawks team has proven it can win on the road in the playoffs, so if the Blues and Ducks kill themselves for the #1 and #2 seed then so be it. Hawks are the favorite in any series.

          • laaarmer

            This Hawks team has not played a playoff game yet. It remains to be seen what they will do in the playoffs.

            I think they will be fine, but not as confidently as I should think.

          • Say what again

            Agreed. But did you think the Hawks were killing themselves last year? Maybe the stupid olympics will reshuffle the deck.

          • SuperHawk27

            I think they had a lot more to prove last year compared to this year. Two first round exits after a cup win will do that. They also had a shortened season which put a lot more meaning into each game. This year I think they know where they need to be, when they need to be there.

            I look forward to the Olympic break, as it will give the coaches and front office some time to review the first half of the season in more depth. Plus, it’ll be a nice change up rooting(half-heartedly) for some new players, and kinda rooting against some Hawks.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            How hard were the Blues pressing in NJ the other night?

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Medium! Medium pressing.

          • laaarmer

            I concur. Nothing more than medium. Not even medium well.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            I suppose if you fall asleep with your foot touching the gas pedal, you’ve technically not let up…right?

          • laaarmer

            I haven’t actually slept in 30+ years

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            and I haven’t stopped having sex for even longer

          • berkley

            Sting?

          • Bullitt315

            The Ducks are 16th in the league in Corsi so they’re not really in first place.

          • laaarmer

            That Corsi guy will be in the top 10 soon. I mean regression and all that.

          • Bullitt315

            Remember last year when everyone said the Ducks will regress to the mean? Still waiting…

          • Paul the Fossil

            Actually the Ducks had a 4-game losing streak in March and another in April, hence finished the regular season with 10 losses in 18 games. And then lost out in the first round. So they did regress, and at the worst possible time.

          • Bullitt315

            So the Ducks were 3rd in the league last year and are first in the league this year but we’ll take a bit of a slump to show “regressing to the mean” The stats crowd is a big circle jerk of confirmation bias. The stats say Seabrook is good but our eye test says he isn’t #statsbedamned Our eye test says Keith is good, so do the stats #stasareamazing

          • Paul the Fossil

            Hmm, I doubt that many Ducks fans called that March/April record plus a first-round loss just “a bit of a slump”!

            Also both the eye test and the stats suggested that had last season continued to its normal length Anaheim would have continued their regression and ended up well below 3rd in the league. E.g. the season before where were the Wild after 48 games and where did they end up? Sample size matters, always.

          • ballyb11

            VG VG VG

          • Paul the Fossil

            Actually the Blues, at least, have lost 4 of their last 7 games.

      • VerStig

        Lack of TWTW on the Pearl Harbor radar guy

        • Bullitt315

          Pearl Harbor was an inside job! Brought to you by the same guys who staged the moon landing.

        • Paul the Fossil

          He was just flat, was gonna be better the next Sunday. And nobody thought that the Japanese were a playoff team.

          • Bannerman

            It was December. Nothing matters until spring

  • SuperHawk27

    Im gonna beat a dead horse. Handzus on that first goal….WTF was he doing? Am I being harsh, or was his man the guy that had the easy tap in?

    • nextgame

      In a word, yes.

    • I Remember The Roar!

      Definitely Zus’s man, but Rozie also got stuck between Granlund and Pominville, not covering either man and not being able to break up the pass…. so… it was a group effort

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Oduya also had a rough night. You can tell a D man is having a rough night when he’s back checking.

      • VerStig

        Heh

      • laaarmer

        Oduya is becoming the best backchecker on the team.
        /zoinks

        • Bullitt315

          Seabrook could learn from him

          • laaarmer

            He’s too smart. Too much work. Let somebody else backcheck. He just backs up and keeps it all in front of him.

  • cliffkoroll

    Good write-up.

    Their goalie played great.

    It’s tough to match the urgency of playoff bubble teams (Detroit, Minnesota) in January.

    Wake me up in April.

    • I Remember The Roar!

      Kuemper played well, but the Hawks had countless shots (I’d eyeball over 65%) that were almost flipped in and hit him in the chest. Too many shots from a distance without traffic!

      The Hawks have done this thing since 2010, where they settle in during this time and try to win with the least amount of effort possible (or so it seems), which leads to a lot of lost points and OTLs. The difference in each year is if they’re able to turn it back on when they need to and play 60 minutes (ie the playoffs). Let’s hope that the Olympic break provides rest for some and that when it counts, the Hawks still now how to throat-stomp! (Based on games last week, I think they do, but it’s nice to have some reassurances)

      • ballyb11

        What was their record in the 10 games post Olympics in 2010?

        • I Remember The Roar!

          11-7-3 in March and April

          • ballyb11

            Not good at all.

          • I Remember The Roar!

            A couple 3 game losing streaks and losing a back-to-back against Columbus… not the mightiest of finishes. But they didn’t need it, they were in.

            I don’t think anyone here is questioning their ability to get into the playoffs. The comment is that they can’t win it all playing like this – they need more consistency. Will they be able to “turn it on” when they’re in the playoffs and it matters? Time will tell, but I hope so!

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Don’t make excuses. This was another game of ‘lots of lazy shots right into the logo.’ Kuemper did a stellar job of rebound control, but we made his life far too easy with long wristers, late net traffic, and lack of movement.

  • laaarmer

    Hey Bollig out at the end of the game last night! Shaw taking draws at the end the night before. Hossa moved down.

    Q may need some new meds these days.

    • SuperHawk27

      He’s just letting Bollig eat regular season minutes. I don’t think we see much of him in the playoffs.

      • laaarmer

        None of what I say helps the team win a game. Not even in the playoffs. Who is going to play for Bollig in the playoffs? You must be counting on a trade or FA pick up right?

        • SuperHawk27

          Considering they have 8 defencemen on the roster, a trade is very likely, plus the hawks have an open roster spot they are not utilizing.

          I chalk this up to an lazy midseason loss. If what you said happens in the playoffs, then the Hawks will have issues…until then…

          • laaarmer

            I’m not caring about the loss. You say Bollig doesn’t see much ice in the playoffs…….Who is going to play for him? Morin? Pirri? Some other unknown. I feel much better now.

          • I Remember The Roar!

            Who’s going to play for Bollig? Toews, Kane, Hossa… when the playoffs come around, Q has no problem double-shifting the big boys in the third to play the quality minutes.

          • laaarmer

            Ah yes. Good planning. better to be thin than deep.

            Why did the Hawks win 2 cups in the last 4? Because Toews and Hossa double shifted? Yeah. That’s what I thought.

          • laaarmer

            Edit: reply to I Remember The Roar
            What I’m saying is not that you are wrong. Those guys will play a bit more, but not enough to take up all Bollig’s minutes. Now is the time to bring somebody up. Especially if you see that Shaw is in a spot that he wont succeed at. Also, if you feel Handzus can’t do it, bring a guy up NOW that might be able to. You have the money, do it for cripes sake.

          • berkley

            waiting for TT?

            Side note: What the fuck did you do to your avatar? Make it something hockey related? *snorts*

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            He kowtowed to peer pressure. He’s a kowtower.

          • berkley

            calling dibs on prostrated laaarmer as a band name

          • laaarmer

            kowtowed?

            I demand satisfaction
            (slaps with glove)

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            lawn chairs at 50 paces, then

          • laaarmer

            Jarts

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            Jorts and Jarts…dibs as a band name

          • Z-man19

            That is the best thing since sliced bologna and you can thank Tmff for it

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            For some reason, I got the distinct feeling last night that Stanbo realized he’s got to find Handzus 2014 for this year’s playoffs.

          • cliffkoroll

            Handzus 2013 was garbage in the regular season.

            I don’t want to sound overly complacent, but….wait, yes I do.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            Yeah, I really can’t be bothered. Kaner slumping…Hossa taking uncharacteristic penalties…this team is bored. And so are we.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Even sex for 30 years straight … well, it’s still 30 years straight.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            Well, it’s true in this case, but you shouldn’t assume those things. I mean, some people have other preferences.

          • I Remember The Roar!

            Woh, woh… never said I approved! And even though we made it through the Stanley Cup Finals in 2013, against the vaunted Boston Bruins with less than 5:00 per game from Leddy, I will definitly admint that depth is necessary. And that it was the key ingredient to 2010 and 2013 for the Hawks.

            Bollig seems to be someone who they are choosing to let develop in the NHL this regular season (as opposed to a Morin, Pirri, or other “prospect”). That’s the way I like to think of it (helps me sleep at night).

          • Paul the Fossil

            Don’t have the numbers by playoff round handy. But at least looking at the playoffs as a whole the Hawks’ individuals minutes played last spring were only somewhat different from during the regular season. For example Leddy averaged 17 minutes during the season and 14 during the playoffs. The top four D-men during the season were still the top four in minutes in the playoffs and each averaged between 2 and 3 more minutes per game. The top four forwards in ice time during the season were the same top four during the playoffs each getting 1 to 2 more minutes per game. Etc.

            Handzus averaged 12 minutes during the season and 16 during the playoffs; Bickell went from 13 to 15; Stalberg went from 14 to 10. Definitely some shifting there within the lineup but not gigantic.

            Taking into account the longer overtimes that happened during the playoffs (meaning every regular’s minutes/game would be inflated a bit), it appears that there was barely any increased overall reliance on the top guys during the postseason. Which is consistent with the idea that depth was at least as important to the team’s success as was the play of the “core”.

      • Bannerman

        I don’t necessarily disagree but the question has to be asked, if not Bollig then who will be skating those moniutes? There doesn’t seem to be anyone in house that they trust even in the regular season let alone the playoffs.

      • ballyb11

        THAT, my friend, is about as close to wishful thinking as you can get.

        • cliffkoroll

          It’s the Frazzle Rock theory!

          Bollig only played in 5 playoff games last year. If he screws up like Game 2 against Boston and sees ice afterwards, I’ll grab a pitchfork and join the Q-haterz.

      • 10thMountainFire

        If Q is trusting Bollig out to handle the opposition in close games in the final minutes, what makes you believe that suddenly changes with the post-season? Bollig has earned his keep in Q’s book to handle opposing lines at the end of close games. I doubt that suddenly reverses itself.

        • VerStig

          I’m starting to think that too, but I think this problem will take care of itself. If Bollig has a couple bad games (hopefully not costing us a series), I’m sure Q will hit the line blender button and this will change.

          If he is up to the task… hey, you never know.

        • Fleshrifle

          Cuz in April, May and June, Jamal Meyers was sitting and Travis played on the top line. This makes me believe that suddenly we have changes in the post-season.

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      I posted this in the third:

      Things you never thought you’d say…. Bollig’s play has been one of the few bright spots.

    • ballyb11

      Seems like Bollig plays the last 2 minutes every game.

    • wardrums

      LOL on “the new meds” quote. He was obviously back to the ” you,you and you-get out there mode

  • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

    This game was a tale of how misrepresentative Corsi stats CAN be in small samples. Corsi For tells us we murdered them, and nothing could be further from the truth. We barely threatened most of the game, with harmless shots from outside and missed nets, whereas 50% of their shots were grade-A chances or odd-man rushes.

    And Bickell? Bickell!!!!? I am thrilled he’s playing less than 10 mins a game, thrilled.

    • lizmcneill

      We were down 2 for most of the game. By the time they’d shaken the pins and needles out of their legs, score effects had kicked in.

      • laaarmer

        Ah yes. The numbers are not right.

        I’m with not Chico.

        • lizmcneill

          When the game was close, they had more shot attempts. Oddly, they also had more goals.

          • laaarmer

            Who had more goals? The Hawks scored in the last minute. It was 2-0. The game was close the entire time.

          • lizmcneill

            Close = tied or a 1-goal lead. It was close for the first 10 minutes, they put us on our heels and we never got off them. The stats and the eye-test are saying the same thing.

          • laaarmer

            So that’s what close means.
            2-0 is a blow out. Good to know.

          • lizmcneill

            Yes, that’s what Fenwick/Corsi Close refers to.
            Why do we take about “most dangerous lead in hockey” and “now it’s a game!” when a lead is cut to one? Because teams change the way they play when they’re up or down 2.

          • laaarmer

            Bullshit number stat crap. Lets call it “close”
            (maniacally laughs)

          • Bullitt315

            I’m going to create a stat called “Corsi confirmation bias”

          • laaarmer

            I will underwrite that stat

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            That’s pretty much quantifying that which should be qualified first

          • Bullitt315

            And I was under the impression a 2 goal lead was the most dangerous lead in hockey.

          • Accipiter

            *3 goal lead.

          • laaarmer

            You are correct sir.

            But when the pother team scores to make it 3-1, it’s a blow out.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I often think the “Close” calculations should be made with 2 goals as the definition of close … you rarely see a team change their style of play in the first two periods with just a two-goal lead.

          • lizmcneill

            It’s possible the trailing team drives the change. Score effects pretty clear on this from last night:

            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeuEO7DCMAEMWJc.png

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            It’s more than likely the trailing team drives the change, I definitely agree. I just think last night’s game was abnormal.

            My argument is that Corsi is used as an indicator of possession (which I agree with), and possession is an indicator of who is controlling the play (which I don’t always agree with). Our corsi events were not indications of control imo; they were desperate attempts to get something, anything, going, but they were useless and ineffective.

          • lizmcneill

            It’s abnormal because more frequently the Hawks are the ones coughing up the 2-goal lead :-D
            to me that graph isn’t necessarily saying Red Team played well and Green Team didn’t in the second two periods. Maybe they did and Green Team have the second coming of Hasek between the pipes, or maybe Green Team settled down happily to trap while Red Team flailed around without result.
            It’s seeing no score effect at all that’s abnormal though – I think it was the Leafs who were getting blown out by Nashville or someone else unlikely, and it was the trailing Leafs whose shot attempts completely flatlined.

          • birdhead

            there was a Blackhawks game a few weeks ago (I think it was maybe the Oilers game) where the score effects happened in reverse. The more the Hawks scored, the more chances they seemed to get.

          • cliffkoroll

            Damn Liz! Who needs Neo?

          • laaarmer

            The way I see this is that it stayed very similar until about the 15 minute mark of the 2nd. Then the Hawks began throwing pucks at the Min goalie. However, most striking with this colorful graphic is the insanity before the 2nd MIN goal. Must have been Hossa’s fault there. Like for 5 minutes, the Hawks just got the crap kicked out of them.

            If I watched the game, I doubt I would need to go to Oak Park to get these results (Fenwick, eh?). It would be obvious. I suppose score effect might be a term you could use. My description would be trying to win.

          • birdhead

            those orange and black lines are pretty telling.

          • laaarmer

            I think except for the flurry the Wild had before and immediately after the 2nd goal, they are exactly the same for the most of the game until about 10 min of the 3rd. (Orange line)

            Before the 1st Wild Goal, it appears the Hawks are pushing at about the same rate as after the 2nd goal, then they go flat.

            You see how this works? You see what I am doing? There was a game being played, not just numbers generating.

            The Hawks were trying to win. The Wild was trying not to lose or trying to win, however you say. It’s not a revelation. This is is what is to be expected.

        • Bullitt315

          If we massage the stats enough we can make them tie to this thing called “Standings”

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            To be clear, I think there are underlying stats that can tell us a lot about the standings, why teams are precisely where they are, whether we can expect them to up or down. But you need half a season at least, and they’re just indicators, hardly fail-safe. (Not explaining TO you, just clarifying my own position.)

          • laaarmer

            These people are nothing but stat messagers. They message all the stats.

            Duz yuwer dewg baht?

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        I understand how the stat is structured and how it works. It told us nothing about that game, zero.

        • cliffkoroll

          I don’t think Liz is disagreeing with you- she’s offering an explanation for why Corsi tells us little in this game.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I read it differently. But score effects don’t tell the story of this game either. What I’d meant to imply is that our corsi events were for the most part horseshit–ineffective shots that were smothered, shots high and wide, shots from far outside. A shot attempt gives the appearance of worth when you tally them up at the end of the game, and this was far from that–conversely, the number of quality attempts that Minny had aren’t represented in those final numbers either.

          • Bullitt315

            I see the beginning of a shot quality debate.

          • VerStig

            Or “not getting the bounces,” a.k.a. luck (I hate that word)

          • laaarmer

            its a 4 letter word

          • VerStig

            the L word

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I hope not. Besides, people on both sides of that argument are fine with shot quality making a difference game to game.

          • cliffkoroll

            Hmmm. Eye test? If Kruger wraps that puck in and Versteeg’s rebound lands on Bickell’s stick and Raanta doesn’t queef on Cooke’s shot, it’s a very different conversation today.

          • lizmcneill

            didn’t Kaner have at least one good chance in regulation? and Toews or someone on OT.

          • ballyb11

            OT?

          • lizmcneill

            Not OT, the last couple minutes with Raantasaurus pulled.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            he had two very good chances in reg.

          • Z-man19

            look at cliff being all rational, I like it

          • Accipiter

            Raanta might have stopped that Cooke shot if he queef’d with a bit more force.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            They had the “exact” same chances (after their two goals) though, it goes both ways with the eye test.

          • cliffkoroll

            I ain’t saying the Hawks outplayed ‘em or were robbed or that Corsi tells us anything about last night’s game.

            But their goalie played well.

            Look, Sammy Davis Jr. is a talented performer- let’s just leave it at that.

          • laaarmer

            S – M – ALL

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            heh

          • ballyb11

            Agree. Agree. Agree.

            If, if, if, if your father had…………….

          • Accipiter

            That cycle that the Kruger line had going just before the wrap around attempt wasn’t bad either.

          • Bullitt315

            The Hawks lost yesterday because the Karaoke guy at my bar cancelled last minute. Hawks lost the “Corsi Rel Karaoke” battle

          • guest

            There’s been some basic graphs comparing shot attempts from the Oilers and the Hawks over the last couple of years. The only differences was that the Hawks shot more. Not that they had more quality shots, or even a better shooting percentage. They just shot more, which suggests that over a season, even bad shots eventually lead to goals.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Yep … I realize the argument for shot quality is on tenuous ground when it comes to season-long views, and I’m fine with that until better (more consistent) data can be gathered. But shot quality does factor into single games.

          • birdhead

            Here that is in gif form: http://benwendorf.tumblr.com/post/73346882584/shot-quality-shooting-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers The rough pattern is the same, the Hawks’ one is just way darker.

          • lizmcneill

            Yep – just because you get desperate and throw the kitchen sink on goal when you’re down a couple isn’t a sign you are playing well.

    • Z-man19

      and you were optimistic

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        They did play better, I suppose, but it’s just that that still wasn’t very good?

        • Z-man19

          better from almost dead wasn’t enough

    • birdhead

      that’s a bit of a lesson in why people use fenwick and corsi close, innit. (Where the Wild c r u s h e d the Hawks.)

  • Andrew Heitman

    I dont understand why they dont pull up more the AHL-might-bes during this lagging period of the season. It happens every year, there are points here that are given up kind of haphazardly. Get a couple of guys up who want to prove something. Imagine a little more Ben Smith and a little less…whatever the hell that was last night.

    • I Remember The Roar!

      In the middle of a long season, when some guys are tired, others are getting beat up, and still others are simply bored or lack a certain spark, we could bring up a few guys that have nothing to lose and are dying to get some NHL minutes to prove their muster…. this I like!!

      • VerStig

        Would be nice to spell Hoss and whoever else needs… spelling

    • Fleshrifle

      Cap issues?

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    Is it okay to use the F word? I know you don’t like it, but I really want to say the F word….

    FLAT.

    It was the headline on WGN Sprots this morning, Flat Blackhawks.

    Okay, I know it’s generic and nondescriptive. I know Pat Tomasulo has more in common with Ray Rayner than a sports journalist…. But I’m gonna say it again. FLAT. Would you prefer Tired? Unmotivated? Hungover?

    • Bullitt315

      I like it. “Corsi Flat” It’s even better than “Corsi confirmation bias”

    • berkley

      Hungover, yeah sure you betcha

      Kaner and da boys was drinkin yesterday out by Bear Lake, near Le Sueur, but den dey decided to go out and have a couple a brews out near Silver Lake, buuuuut you know how it is with does kids and dey just ended up out at Goose Lake

      • Bullitt315

        That sounds like a really good Saturday. Especially if they snowmobiled from lake to lake

  • putmeinthemadhouse

    Yesterdays extended penalty was a double minor to saad, wasnt a 5 on 3 was it?

    • Bullitt315

      It was Bollig’s fault

      • VerStig

        #ItShouldHaveBeenBollig

    • lizmcneill

      No, that was the Scum game. Yesterday our fearless alternates managed to get themselves to the box at the same time.

      • putmeinthemadhouse

        er thats what i meant by yesteday oops

  • ballyb11

    Injuries. — We haven’t had any / many. And when we do……………?

    • Accipiter

      Something about a wounded animal ?

      • ballyb11

        Doesn’t work in that direction.

    • cliffkoroll

      I like the cut of your jib.

      ballyb11′s Big Book of Worrys. It’s inexhaustible.

      • ballyb11

        Need a balance. I weigh 1500 lbs. You can have a lot of people on the other side of the teeter totter.

        • SuperHawk27

          depends on where the fulcrum is.

          • ballyb11

            Yeah, that’s right. I might need another 1500 lb. worrier (really fifteen 100 lb. worriers would be better). Any volunteer(s)?

      • Bullitt315

        Corsi Rel Injuries. I’m full of new stats today.

      • SuperHawk27

        what’s a jib?

  • laaarmer

    If If eh, If If eh, If If eh, If if eh……..

    • Accipiter

      Do you need some coffee ?

      • laaarmer

        If if eh…
        /python’d

  • laaarmer

    I didn’t even watch the game last night. I listened to the last half on the radio in the car. Have to say I didn’t even know Keith wasn’t playing. Had I known, I would have expected the score to be 5-0 with his usual partner responsible for 5 TO’s leading to goals.

    Still miffed about Bollig being on the ice there at the end. Doesn
    t make sense from any angle. Just plain stupidity, unless, he is being shopped. Eh?

    • Accipiter

      Seabrook played with the only other competent D man the Hawks have (Hjammer). You know, to shelter him.

      • laaarmer

        Oh yes. Hjammer blocked all the shots from Seabrook’s turnovers. Got it. Thanks.

    • 10thMountainFire

      Bollig’s contract is up after this season, is it not? I doubt that’s why he’s in the game last night with a minute left. He’s been a regular in close games to close things out.

      • Bannerman

        Isn’t that why they have Mashinter at Rock Vegas?

        • 10thMountainFire

          i would imagine so, yes.

        • lizmcneill

          ugly sobbing.

      • Bullitt315

        You should record yourself non-stop during the offseason because if Stan resigns Bollig your head might actually explode.

      • Fleshrifle

        Could it be the Q/Stanbo play Bollig as if its important in Jan. and ship him out in Feb for a decent draft pick? That would be pretty #$#@ awesome to get anything more than a 6th rounder for him. If that should happen, then these late game minutes really paid off in the long run.

        • laaarmer

          Bollig signs 3 year extension 1.1M per. You heard it here 1st.

          • Fleshrifle

            If I didn’t love you so much I wouldn’t like you

      • laaarmer

        Close things out is different then trying to win a game. Unless of course you feel the game cannot be won.

  • 2883

    I bet if you looked at CORSI relcomp and compared Steeger’s CORSI to his CORSI relcomp, you’d probably be slightly disappointed.

    • VerStig

      So was I right about him being sheltered?

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      Exactly. And add in zone starts. Same with Bickell …

      • Z-man19

        They’ve been getting more than 50% D-zone starts the last couple of games, didn’t look at last night though