• Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    I have this pic in my head of the Hawks winning another cup… sometime in the next six years, and the home opener / banner raising ceremony is with the Blue Jackets in the house, and as everyone is cheering, Saad is quietly cursing his agent.

    It is a dream I have – Arthur from Excalibur

    • Jim

      I think it’s Saad’s father he should be cursing. Brandon is apparently being told to forget sentiment and winning, and to go all out cash grab. The poor agent is like a realtor that is caught in the middle between a buyer with a reasonable offer, and a seller who won’t budge. And the agent is probably being told by Saad to get the cash at all costs.

      • Sopel the catfish

        The Saadfather brought down by Saad’s father.

      • Guackycom

        The transcript sure doesn’t sound like an excited/pleased Saad; I still buy the Stan-called-their-bluff storyline. Saad has to know the next several years are going to suck; playoffs? maybe. cup? no chance. In a decade he’ll be like Richards was last year; looking to join a contending team to win it once more after having done so (admittedly, twice) early in his career. As an aside: good for Stan. Bluffs should be called. It’ll make future negotiations swifter and easier. But, I sure will miss #20 . . .

      • DJ

        He gets his money. Fine. Play to your ability and the next contract you can chase cups again. I hope that when he’s free to chase Cups, we’d be worthy of interest.

        • jordyhawk

          By that time I hope we’re saying “yeah he was good, but he’s no Dano.”

        • Jim

          Sure, we move on. But it is an interesting story.

    • Just the Facts

      A dream, for some. A nightmare for others! – Merlin from Excalibur

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    Remaining free agents…. The only guy on that list I would take is…. Oduya….
    Sigh…

    • Guackycom

      We can afford him if Sharp goes . . .

  • jordyhawk

    Ran across this bit this morning. Slow day so far.

    “The catch is that Saad wants to be paid, posthaste. A source told The Dispatch that Saad’s father, a Syrian immigrant who made himself into a hugely successful businessman, has been clear that he does not want his son to wait for a bonanza. Reportedly, Saad was seeking a multi-year contract
    worth $6.5 million per — which is why the cap-strapped Blackhawks dealt
    him to the Jackets.”

    http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2015/07/02/deal-but-no-deal-jackets-still-must-sign-saad.html

    • Jim

      So Dad is driving the bus here….makes sense. Stan must have known and quickly cut bait. I wouldn’t be surprised if Stan was negotiating with Columbus for some time, because the players obtained were very specific. It will be interesting to see the Saad contract details when they happen. I’m guessing more like 5 per year. Matt Belesky, who seemed like a solid forward for the Ducks in the playoffs ended up at 4 with the Bruins.

      • jordyhawk

        I wonder how well he got along on the dads trip.

    • CurvedBlade

      I’m actually excited about what we got for Saad. Next season we will still have a strong team.

      Saad father is giving Brandon good advice. Man child has a short career to make the most of. Fun is fun, and with 2 cups he’s had more fun than most ever will. With good pay and good investment advice he will never have to work again. Time to grow up. You do not trade millions for a fun experience. Fun is the off season, or post hockey sipping drinks on a Caribbean beach.

  • I Remember The Roar!

    I don’t know much about Arty myself, but everywhere I’ve read about The Trade from a non-Blackhawks source, I hear that Anisimov is a 3C and both him and Dano are bottom 6 guys. All of the Blackhawks sources, here included, have him as a solid 2C.

    What gives? Is he a true 2C or a square peg for a round hole?

    • mazer_rackham

      If we re-sign Kruger I’d want Anisimov to be 2C just based on experience, and let Teuvo warm to the 3C role. Anisimov didn’t have a great FO%, but he was still able to turn possession, and I think he might be better defensively than Richards. That should help the 2nd line a lot.

      I also expect at some point Q will move him to a wing and have Shaw be 2C.

      • ‘hawks58

        His FO% has been right around where Richards’ was this year

    • HarryBalzonya

      Dano is only twenty. He only has part of one season of NHL experience, and in that time he produced well. From what I have read he should be able to develop into a solid top 6 guy.

    • ‘hawks58

      Well, Saad was a top 6 player; Dano had nearly identical g/60 and p/60 as Saad at 20.

      Anisimov (46 goals, 108 points) was pretty damn close to Saad’s (52 goals, 126 points) numbers his first 3 seasons (at 21-23) and has put up similar numbers in Columbus when healthy (.24 g/g-.5 pt/g for Anisimov as a CBJ, vs .25/.61 for Saad in CHI).

      So they have both put up similar production to Saad. If we think Saad is a clear top 6, wouldn’t they possibly be top 6 as well?

    • lizmcneill

      I think expectations for a 2C need to be adjusted. 40ish points is right around 120-150th for forwards in the NHL. I’ve seen a lot of Ryan O’Reilly being referred to as 2C, but 50-60 points is low-end first line production nowadays.

      Where Anisimov plays likely depends on whether he has chemistry with Kaner.

      Dano is rated as a likely top-6 prospect, and Columbus fans were angry/upset to lose him.

    • Aaeismacgychel

      From what I have seen of Anisimov, I think he could be a 2C for maybe the bottom 50% of teams, but for us and most other playoff teams, his skills will be more akin to a 3C. He is a pest and a grinder who finds open areas in the zone for one-timers or rebounds but he isn’t an offensive talent or has the hockey vision/IQ to be a good set-up guy for Kane. I agree with Liz in that if we’re expecting him to be a 2C in the way we think of a 2C, our expectations are going to be unreasonable as I just don’t see him as a good fit there. As a 3C or even possibly a 2W I think he’ll perform a bit more to expectations. I agree with the non-Blackhawks’ sources on this one and that we just are presenting him as the replacement for Richards which isn’t exactly the case.

      • CurvedBlade

        Thanks for the opinion — but let’s just wait and see.

        Before last season, Richards was seen on this blog as a has been… also not a 2c on a top team. He was going to burn out before the playoffs. Remember all that? Look how he turned out.

        Anisimov has performed well on a weak team. He may have a lot of upside with Kane and other top talent motivating him off ice, and taking most of the defensive pressure on ice. I imagine him working his ass off this summer to make a good impression in training camp. That is what being on a great team does to you. Soon he will have a lot of crazy committed guys next to him in the weight room. Would you slack off with Keith, Toews and Hossa near by? No, you wouldn’t.

        • Hockey Newbie

          He will also be on the team with his idol, Hossa, and maybe playing with him will have a profound impact. Now that I think about it, however, that is a pretty redundant statement as I think that Hossa is pretty much everyone’s idol.

  • HarryBalzonya

    WOOOOO STAN IS MAKING SOME MOVES. We just signed two AHL D-men

  • HarryBalzonya

    Also Eklund thinks Sharp to either Isles or Habs could happen today.

    • Sopel the catfish

      Maybe some Sharp for Okposo? Getting Kyle would help make up for the loss of Saad…

      • HarryBalzonya

        One option I heard involved a sort of 3-way trade with Okposo going to the Wild and the Isles getting Sharp. Not sure what/who we would get in that scenario

        • Sopel the catfish

          I would much prefer he stay in NY (or anywhere out east) than go to the Wild, he and Foligno were two of my favorite forwards to watch last year that weren’t wearing the Indianhead.

        • ZigZags82

          That would be awful for the Hawks to help facilitate Okposo to the Wild.

      • Hags

        gonna take a lot more than just Sharp to get Okposo, no?

        • Sopel the catfish

          We’ll toss in Morin and Tropp.

    • lizmcneill

      So that’s a guarantee it won’t happen, then?

  • SuperHawk27

    I’m actually okay with the Saad trade the more I see how its all playing out. For about 5 minutes I was pissed, but I trust Stan with this team. Time to see what the young guys can do!

    • jordyhawk

      Time will tell, but I’m with you. Saad is a young beast, but we got back centers which we need. Wingers we can replace. Besides he priced himself out of Chicago.

      At center we now have: Jonny, Anisimov, Dano, TT, Kruger, Danault. That’s the best depth we’ve had to start the season since this whole thing began. (Note to Stan: new Kruger deal asap please).

      Another thing we will have a lot more of next year is grit. Danault, Dano, McNeill, Johns, Hartmann all bring that and at least 2 or 3 of them will make the club. And they’re good hockey players too.

      I’m looking forward to next year. A new look. The reload. Had to happen, and we already have the high-end guys so to have these prospects and additions (Anisimov) coming in is exciting. It’s a long cry from the Lepisto, O’Donnell, Scott days.

      • SuperHawk27

        So as long as Johns, and TVR can stay healthy, and play well….along with a vet Dman pickup….we should be slightly better than last year defensively. Even if it’s a wash we’ll have a chance to repeat. That’s comparing regular season Rosi and the combination of Cumiskey/Rundblad/Timo.

  • HarryBalzonya

    I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Anisimov center the 3rd line, with Panarin on one wing. One of the struggles for Panarin is that from what I’ve heard he knows very little english. Having a fellow russian on his line would certainly make him more at ease.

    • Aaeismacgychel

      This is what I think is going to happen and I would be surprised if it didn’t. Having a “Red” Line of XXXXX-Anisimov-Panarin (even Tikhonov-Anisimov-Panarin) as the 3rd line makes some sense, especially considering that Q does like the flexibility of having Shaw skate with Kane (yes, I know this means Shaw would be our 2C. Please don’t throw those rocks at me, guys. Oh gosh you’re really hurting me. Seriously). Anyways the Anisimov-Panarin pairing makes sense for numerous reasons and Chicago as a whole does like pairing countrymen together.

  • HawkVision

    Nice, non-homer, analysis from The Cannon on the Saad deal.

  • Sopel the catfish
  • To Saad be the glory

    Oshie traded to Caps for Brouwer,Copley and a pick. I’ve said more than once on this blog the Blues would never win a cup with Oshie and Jackman on their roster. Sadly they have seen the light.

    • HarryBalzonya

      Yeah, but that is not a great trade for them. Not sure how they weren’t able to get more.

      • To Saad be the glory

        Oshie’s been stinkin up the joint the last couple of years. I thought it was almost too much.

        • To Saad be the glory

          Now that I look it up,goals wise Brouwer has had more than Oshie the last couple yrs.

          • HarryBalzonya

            Brouwer only has one year left on his deal as well, so unless they can sign an extension he may be gone this time next year.

          • To Saad be the glory

            Seeing Troy in a river scum sweater is gonna make me ill.

        • HarryBalzonya

          I think part of that has to do with him not fitting the style of play that fatman Hitchcock wanted at all.

          • To Saad be the glory

            Very true,good point.

        • Sopel the catfish

          I think Oshie will do quite well with the Caps, and now that he isn’t with river scum I kind of want him to*. Unless that AHL goalie can solve the eternal problem in net the blues seem to have I’d say Washington got the better of the deal.

          • To Saad be the glory

            Well,if he does do well it will be another way to rub something in river scums face.

          • Sopel the catfish

            Exactly! It would be fun to see all of the “why did we ever trade Oshie” stuff from their fans who for the most part couldn’t seem to get rid of him soon enough

          • To Saad be the glory

            river scum fans and Leaf nation could hold a year end “oh woe is us” pity party together.

    • Sopel the catfish

      They’ve still got the aptly named bag of dicks in Backes to help keep them away from the cup (if you squint really hard bagofdicks becomes backes).

      Or whatever, no whiskey yet so I’m not truly funny.

      • To Saad be the glory

        Funny enough lol. I forgot about that p.o.s. I shall say it now ..”As long as Backes is captain of the Blues and skates with the note on his sweater the Blues will never win the cup”

      • To Saad be the glory

        I still need to change my posting name by the way (duh lol). I think I shall go with something Hossa infused,kinda stick with the God theme.

        • Hockey Newbie

          I think this phrase was coined by Sopel, but I might suggest “By the grace of Hossa” in case you are asking ….. or give a @#$%.

          • To Saad be the glory

            Perfect,thank you!