• Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    A lot has been written (though not by Blackhawks fans, Blackhawks beat writers, or sane people), to the effect that the Hawks will have trouble competing because they will be a top heavy team for years to come, that the recent signing will gut the team of the depth that won us two cups.

    1. This may be true to some extent in the short term, but I say it will be easier to compete as a top heavy team with DDN locked up for 8 years, than to compete as a balance team without them.

    2. Give it four years out of those eight year contract, and these signings will seem like a solid investment, if not an outright bargain.

    3. The depth will come back as the cap increases. These signings were made with an eye to the long term, not just 2016, and because they were done quickly, there will be nothing but goodwill all around going forward.

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      Also, the ‘Hawks have considerably more depth in their prospect pool now than they did when the capocalypse forced them to ship out half the team after the 2010 Cup. While Stan does have some tough decisions to make and the ‘Hawks will have to say goodbye to more than one player that many of us would love to see continuing to wear the Indian Head, the guys that will be stepping into their roster spots will not be such massive downgrades of the likes of John Scott, Fernando Pisani, Jake Dowell, Jack Skille, Jordan Hendry, Jassen Cullimore, or Ryan Johnson

      • Andrew Heitman

        A lot of WI kids on that list there…well 2.

      • raditzzzz

        upon reflection, this is actually an underrated aspect of the whole “hawks are hamstrung” argument. its rather apparent that bowman has been taking it easy when it comes to the FA market and trades, and mostly investing in draft picks ever since the great cap purge. while some grew tired of marinading in the rock, the majority have been toiling away, racking up decent ahl time/experience. i would say overall, that gives you a good leg on dealing with cap issues, when you have well matured prospects ready to move up to the big league.

        although the team has been log jammed recently due to their depth, these prospects are going to get some real shots to make it with the club with some of the moves we are going to have to make, and im thinking we will get some good home grown talent making real contributions on the roster.

      • The Nutbrown Hare

        No, no, no! You’ve put the haunting image of Jack Skille back into the forefront of my mind. I was just starting to recover from this, don’t you see…

        • MySpoonIsTooBig

          Remember when Dale drafted him 7th overall in 2005? What a draft genius uncle Dale was…

          • The Nutbrown Hare

            Ah, yes. And Uncle Dale, bless his heart, was still so enamored with Skille that Stan was able to fleece him for Frolik…so I suppose it all worked out in the end.

          • lizmcneill

            We should have traded Bolly to him last year instead of Toronto, given that he thinks Bolly is worth 5.5M.

    • Andrew Heitman

      Also, people are staring at a stagnant salary cap. Its going to continue to go up and their cap hit is stagnant.

      One more thing- look at what the UFA’s got this year. Christ, look at what a 3C in Bolland garnered.

      In 3 years, these deals are going to seem like a bargain.

    • jordyhawk

      I kicked the numbers around and we are going to be tight against cap for at least the first couple of years and we are going to lose guys as well as a consequence. I know you can’t blame guys for getting what they can, but it would have been nice if the numbers had come in a bit lower (say just 10 or even 9.5). I say this for 2 reasons;

      1) 500k is trivial for these guys, but that could be the difference in having enough dough to pay a guy like Kruger. He could easily be offer-sheeted after next year.

      2) Not sure how this plays in the room. Maybe it doesn’t matter but when a couple of the dogs have most of the bone maybe it does. Not everyone of the club is stinking rich.

      One other point, I think Stan could play it tougher. He gave CC too big a deal. He overpaid Leddy when he didn’t have to. He was also very public about signing 19/88 when he didn’t need to be. All these nickels add up and as it turned out this year we were a couple of players short at the bottom of the lineup and it arguably cost us.

      • HawkIPA

        I disagree. $500k per year over eight years (an additional $4m) is actually a lot of money to hockey players. They can’t make money for long, and need to maximize what they can get. As for Stan, trumpeting the need to sign 19/88 was necessary–he did not want any panic or give any impression that these two players could walk. It matters to the players, and it matters to the fans. It also had no effect on the number–19/88 didn’t need Bowman to tell them how important they are to the franchise.

        Also, Kruger will not be offer sheeted, that almost never happens. Crawford’s deal was a bit too large, Leddy remains to be seen, but Smith, Morin, and Richards were signed at bargain-basement prices. We will need to shed salary, but it’s likely not more than 2 players. I don’t think that costs this team too much, given the depth that exists below.

        • lizmcneill

          If you’re getting 80M, does another 4M make any difference?

      • ‘hawks58

        Notice what all of those contracts (Crawford, Leddy, Kane, Toews) have in common? They are all guys the Hawks either drafted or acquired before they became professionals (Leddy). These 4, along with the Bickell and Hjalmarsson deals, are olive branches to the young guys toiling down in Rockford. It tells them that if they are patient, they will get their chance and if they take advantage of that chance and produce for multiple seasons, they will get paid while having a chance to win titles.

  • ShotsFired

    Ah, the bad old days in Hawk history. The picture accompanying the morning links article shows a lot of empty seats behind 1988. And no “C” on 19’s sweater.

    • Joe DeTolve

      I really tried to find a picture of Arnason, Bell and Calder all together but surprise! There weren’t any via Google..Probably because there weren’t any photogs at the UC from 1999-2007

      • jordyhawk

        Calder was nails. I always like that guy.

  • ‘hawks58

    To anybody that may feel the sky is falling, think about it like this:

    The Blackhawks are paying $84M each for Toews and Kane’s age 27-34 and 26-33 seasons.

    The Wild are paying Suter and Parise $98M for their age 28-40 and 27-39 seasons.

    So when Suter and Parise are in their late 30s, still making $7.5M; Toews and Kane could be on contracts that more reflect their current abilities. I would expect that if the two are still great players at the end of these contracts, they will sign sweetheart deals to close out their careers in Chicago.

    • raditzzzz

      seeing as how they are going to bring us three more cups during that time, im seeing their next contracts as being 100% of the hawks future cap.

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    • pepe_silvia

      Sobotka gone AND they resigned Ott?! For 2 years?! The dumpster fire that is STL keeps on raging. And I love it.