• Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    It is almost (almost) to the point where I am beginning to feel sorry for Ovie, but neither Karma nor I have forgiven him for boarding Soupy, or for those arrogant Ovechtrick commercials.

    • I hate that Ovie has that scumbag aspect to his game because I otherwise really like him, he can obviously play and I kinda enjoy the showmanship side of him too, I don’t mind guys that are cocky if they can back it up.

      • 334Rules

        “if they can back it up.”

        When it comes to games that matter, Ovie simply can’t do that. If you’re going to “guarantee” a series win, you damn well better deliver. He didn’t. He rarely does. I’d rather have a guy who delivers only in the playoffs than a guy who delivers only during the regular season.

        • Sopel the catfish

          Bickell v Ovie… Although Ovie was the only one on his team to score, and I think the guarantee was blown out of proportion. It was during an interview and he stated that they were going to come back from the game 6 loss and win game 7, which is exactly what I would want Toews to say if he was in the same situation.

        • ZigZags82

          He scored a goal, had 6 SOG, facilitated many other 10 bellers that Lundqvist simply stopped or his guys fanned on, and he was ferocious on the backcheck and forecheck. Id say he did the best he coul lol.

          • 334Rules

            Gimme a guy who scores in the third, or in OT, with the game on the line. Someone like – I dunno – Patrick Kane. Conventional wisdom says Sid and Ovie are the best offensive players in the game. They’re filling out a foursome with David Backes and TJ Oshie right now. Truly great players are the ones who win their last game of the season. Did Ovie do the best he could? Only he can answer that. But whether he did or not, it certainly wasn’t good enough.

          • ZigZags82

            I can’t disagree. I’m just saying. We all know who the real best players in the game are regardless (Toews, Kane….)

          • It’s actually Hockey Star Nicklas Backstrom, as I was informed by a Deadspin commenter recently. He’s much better than the vastly overrated Jonathan Toews!

            Caps fans have great jokes.

          • ZigZags82

            I saw that lmao. I couldn’t help but laugh. Let them think Toews isn’t that good…

          • Haven’t you seen what Backstrom can do to a giant block of ice? He’s a magician.

          • Ah shit you’re right, I shoulda known.

          • Yeah, this whole conversation was the basic subject of a Deadspin article yesterday, in advance of the game–Joel Ward laid out the whole ‘puck luck’ theory for the local Washington media that was holding Ovie to his ‘guarantee’.

            Hard to pin anything on #8 after his game last night. The Caps absolutely dominated the first half of OT last night and still lost on a fortunate rebound. Them’s the breaks.

  • meme gene okerlund

    What game was that picture from? Cool to see Rizzo and Bryant at the game

    • Lionel Hutz

      Game 1 against Minnesota. They showed Rizzo on the jumbotron and Bryant had glasses on and his hood up most of the time.

    • Jim

      Chicago sports (beyond hockey) are interesting again. The Cubs have a good lineup. If only Soler would quit chasing low outside balls in the dirt. If the Bulls can somehow beat the Cavs, we’d have 2 major sports in the semi finals this year.

    • Joe DeTolve

      Holy shit! I didn’t even realize that until right now!

  • bigtreina

    Kevin Hayes is a monster. Whomever the Rangers play in the final – and yes I’m making that prediction – Hawks fans are going to get to see what their GM let get away.

    • jhb

      They didn’t let him get away. He used CBA rules in place to take an entry level deal with a team of his choice. The Blackhawks’ mistake, if you can even call it that, was not signing him after his junior year, even though he hadn’t put together his game in his first three seasons. Hard call to speculate that he would score almost as many points in his senior year as he did freshman through junior years combined. And that he didn’t sign very likely because he wasn’t guaranteed an NHL roster spot. So, he used his leverage, good for him, it’s all working out … and fuck him. TB is better than the Rangers right now, too. I’m gonna call that one in 6.

      • bigtreina

        “not signing him after his junior year” would imply we had the chance. Hence, my suggestion of letting him get away. In any case, Bowman has had to pick and choose who stays and goes quite a bit. I’m just not that excited about a KHL signing in Panarin (described as a Russian Kane) as I am about a guy like Kevin Hayes who could’ve easily slotted into Bickell’s spot after this year. Size, strength, skill etc… Don’t the Hawks seem a bit undersized to you?

        • jhb

          True, Bowman has to make those choices, and in that respect Hayes got away from them. But we could go on at length about the reasons they wouldn’t sign/try to sign him after three years of seeming developmental stagnation. About who to dole out one of the 50 contracts an extremely competitive team is allowed to carry each year, about learning a lesson after signing Brandon Pirri with only one year of college/development, etc. Best just to say it really sucked to lose that element of a player. But it illustrates the high stakes of the GM job.

          I would like to see some size on the team, yes. But I’m wary of looking for it at the expense of selecting a better player. Losing Hayes sucks but there little that could feasibly do. But I think McNeill, Chris Calnan, Tyler Motte, John Hayden, they like these guys. They have size, and hopefully can develop their skill.

        • ZigZags82

          Size means nothing in today’s league. You can always find another power forward. And Hayes is a center, not a wing.

          • Jim

            I was thinking the same thing. If you’re bigger you can knock a guy off the puck, but only if you can catch him. All of the goon stuff is going away, and the Montador family lawsuit may speed things up with regards to fighting.

          • bigtreina

            Please don’t confuse my statement about size. Hayes isn’t a bruiser – neither was that Baun kid the Hawks showed off for a few games. Even though Bickell hasn’t yet resumed his playoff scoring touch – his size and net presence is a huge plus on the power play. If you add hands and hockey IQ to the mix with acceptable speed, you’ve got Andrew Ladd. Don’t tell me you think the Hawks don’t miss Ladd.

          • Jim

            Point taken. I think Bickell had about 20-30 hits in the last 2 games against the Wild. They saved that for closing out the series. An effective technique when strategically applied. Kind of what Byfuglien did against Vancouver and Philly in 2010. Bickell, Byfuglien, and Ladd all have skill. One or two guys like that is effective. But that is a unique kind of player. You wouldn’t expect Hossa, Saad, Toews etc. to be doing that. In the case of Anaheim, every minute Perry, Getzlaf, Kesler spend on running around hitting guys, is a minute their top scorers are not scoring.

          • bigtreina

            Awesome point. Particularly about Kesler. I’d like to think we’re already in his head.

        • ZigZags82

          You should also be very excited about the KHL prospect seeing as everyone wanted him. I’d like Kevin Hayes to see firsthand what he missed out on if they get to the SCF by losing it to us.

          • bigtreina

            That’s too bold a prediction for me. I’m very interested to see how they handle the Ducks. Oh, and I’m slightly xenophobic when it comes to Russian players not named Datsyuk. Too many years of watching my Hawks get schooled by Yzerman’s flying Russian circus.

          • ZigZags82

            It’s about time the Hawks were in Cup contention and won Cups with some Canadians, Swedes, a few Americans, AND Russians, Eh?

      • ZigZags82

        If he didn’t want to compete for spot as well, that’s on him. If we get to the SCF and face them I want him to see what he missed out on.

    • Such a monster that until last night he had been outscored in the playoffs by legendary hockeyman Brandon Bollig.

      That’s not to say I don’t wish the kid was a Blackhawk, but let’s pump the brakes on him until he’s played a little bit longer eh?

      • bigtreina

        Game tying goal in game 7 of a playoff series is a pretty big goal don’t you think. And although it seems a little unfair, I’m pretty sure he’s outscoring Bickell and Shaw these playoffs.

        • I’m gonna be 100 percent honest with you, I do think Hayes is gonna be pretty good and the Bollig thing is more just me liking to kind of make fun of Bollig than anything else. I just don’t know what to do other than shrug about it because of how it all played out with the timing, seems more like bad luck for the Blackhawks than anything else.

        • jhb

          He has 2g, 1a in 12 games. Shaw 1g, 4a. Bickell 0g, 4a in 10 games. Different uses, all of them, but in general Hayes is getting closer to top 6 minutes.

          He would still look good with us, though!