• cliffkoroll

    Jonathan Toews responds to the “Full 60 minutes in March!” crowd:

    “Just excited to play hockey, and leading up to the hit I took in Pittsburgh there, it was a tough couple weeks,” Toews said. “I think it was getting to that point where there was just so much hockey. We were playing every other day for a couple weeks straight. I was playing a lot of minutes, and I think just having those few weeks off has definitely helped me get my body ready for this series.”

    Translation: “Hockey, hockey, hockey. Nothing but hockey coming out my ears and as far as the eye can see.”

    And this from Toews. What does this imply for mere mortals?

    • ChicagoNativeSon

      Mere mortals comment on hockey blogs like this.
      And year round, we seemingly never get tired of hockey, hockey, hockey.

      For example, has anyone noticed any discernible drop off in XMF’s QoC (Quality of Commenting)? He consistently puts forth a 365 day effort.

      60 minutes? Pshaw.

      • putmeinthemadhouse

        Must be a contract year

        • Preacher

          Like he’d go to another team! To quote Stan: “XMF isn’t going anywhere!”

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            The plan all along?

        • Bannerman

          We like our people

      • DesertHawk

        Some of us are definitely much more streaky.

      • XMF

        I’m really only like Bollig. I’m useless but I get to the arena for each game.

    • lizmcneill

      I think part of the problem was that the guy who did get the Olympic break didn’t pick up the slack when the 10 Olympians were burning out. Saad was hurt/slumping, Mutt was slumping, Bicks was still in regular season mode, DAMMIT VERSTEEG, Bollig is whatever. Crow, Frogger, Ben and Leddy were the only non-Olympians who weren’t underperforming in some way and that’s not enough to carry a team.

      • Z-man19

        Frogger?

        • lizmcneill

          The Human Shields dragged their possession #s past break-even with some of the worst zone starts in the NHL after the break. They don’t score a lot but they’re a checking line so that’s the expectation for them.

          • Z-man19

            Frogger was an Olympian, was he not? Sorry, nitpicking a little

          • lizmcneill

            So he was, how did I forget that. He did so well, too.

      • cliffkoroll

        Aw. Versteeg doesn’t get hurt/slumping kid gloves too?

        • lizmcneill

          DAMMIT VERSTEEG is almost a term of affection.

          • SuperHawk27

            People have been saying it so long he should legally change his name to DAMMIT.

          • lizmcneill

            Kristopher DAMMIT Versteeg.

          • JB

            But dad… I’m Jesus Christ!

          • Z-man19

            nice

      • ChicagoNativeSon

        Interestingly, as the doomsdayers were pointing out the “not acceptable” Hawks record at the time, according to FenwickClose, the Hawks played some of their best hockey from late January until the end of the season, especially after Sochi.

        But according to PDO, they had incredibly bad puck luck. They finished the season with an awful rolling 10-game PDO of 94. Oof.

        Now I’m a firm believer that over a short period, the concept of “luck” can have a lot to do with individual effort; doing the little things, or not. Some days you’re on, some days you’re not. It’s just not sustainable, especially as a team. But performing to the overall level of talent on the team is sustainable and that’s what stats like Corsi and Fenwick doing a good job of gauging.

        So it looks to me like the team was actually picking up the slack since Fenwick was trending upwards. Whether or not they were doing the little things or just weren’t getting the bounces, that narrative is open for debate.

        • HossBoss

          Well the puck luck seemed to regress during the last series with PDOs of:
          94.60%
          95.30%
          105.0%
          101.4%
          108.7%
          115.8%
          for games 1-6 respectively

    • Preacher

      And this reminds us of why Q does some of what he does, like NOT practicing. Hitch mentioned it during the playoffs as if it were a new concept to him. I thought most teams did this. Apparently not. Another reason Q is GENIUS.

      • lizmcneill

        And this is why the guys think he’s so great.

      • zacked

        Q started that last year, when the schedule was compressed, no?

        With a team as battle-tested as the ‘hawks it makes sense. I do wonder if that will have a negative effect on folding new kids into the team in the future.

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          He’s always done it, actually … but moreso last year, definitely.

        • chidiver

          That’s the biggest negative to this…tough for the young-uns to integrate and prove themselves with limited practice time. We’ll probably have a couple of good practices before the next series. Maybe that allows a 4th line to develop.

      • Bob Lanz

        Ease off on the Q is a genius . Bollig that’s why not to mention defensemen playing wing. He’s no fucking genius

        • zacked

          I don’t think how he allocates 1.4% of his ice time really determines whether someone is a good coach or not. It can be a warning sign, but why judge someone on such a little detail?

        • MySpoonIsTooBig

          I certainly don’t agree with every move that Q makes, his penchant for dressing a defenseman as the 12th forward and/or dressing Bollig over Regin / Morin / Nordstrom are chief amongst my most pressing criticisms. That said, there’s a reason he’s guided the ‘Hawks to 2 Cups in 4 years, that he’s 3rd all time on the coaching wins list, and that he is universally respected around the league. He’s not perfect but he is a damn good coach, one of the best in the business

    • flahawkfan

      Offense is hard. ;)

      • ChicagoNativeSon

        No offense, but defense is harder.

        • cliffkoroll

          I find your comment both offensive and defensive. Not sure which is worse.

          • ChicagoNativeSon

            In a nutshell (although maybe one day I’ll put forth a larger scale effort to refute your claim) I believe offense takes more natural talent, but defense is harder to learn.

            And FYI, I didn’t come to this conclusion simply for the sake of disagreeing. I initially agreed, but then after pondering it for a few days, I waffled. You know how it is.

          • cliffkoroll

            Yes I do. You’re exactly wrong of course.

  • wanker751

    I don’t know about you guys but to me it is delicious to my palate is the Sha-arks collapse again…esp with everyone again saying they were the team to beat in the west…

    • Bob in EP

      Any team with Raffi Torres deserves sword, fire and salted earth.

      • SuperHawk27

        Can’t forget about the locusts…

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      I love Nemo, but fuck Torres and the Sharks for signing him.,

    • Bullitt315

      I remember the other day when they we’re up I said “It’s the Sharks, they’ll collapse” I didn’t think it’d happen in the first round.

  • Michael Scott

    I’m still giddy over that game.

  • zacked

    I like that the very first thing out of the new Flames’ GM’s mouth was that they “need to get bigger”. The more things change…

    The Flames have 7 guys over 6’3″ (most of whom are garbage, but that’s kind of my point) and 6 guys over 220.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      Imagine what they could do with 8 guys over 6’3″ and 6 guys over 230!

      • zacked

        Clearly they need the Mountain that Skates.

        • VanDorp’sMullet

          My name is VanDorp’sMullet and I approve of this joke.

    • CitizenKaner

      We should be thankful. It’s GM’s like that who make Bollig a tradeable asset

      • pepe_silvia

        Bollig for Monahan

    • Bullitt315

      How much of that is serious and how much of it is just placating the “We need to get bigger” fans I bet 80% of the stuff gm’s publicly say is complete crap.

      • MySpoonIsTooBig

        I don’t think any of it is attempting to placate fans. It’s 100% what Brian Burke believes, it’s what he’s been saying since he arrived in Calgary and it’s reflected in the moves he has orchestrated both before and after he relieved Jay Feaster of his GM duties. If I were a Calgary fan I’d be terrified with the direction that Burke and his new hand-picked GM Brad Treliving are planning on taking the team.

        • Bullitt315

          Ha. That’s funny then.

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            Yup, hilarious. Unless you’re a Calgary fan, in which case it’s a good thing you live in Canada what with the free health care and all because you’re probably staring down the barrel at sclerosis of the liver in the not-too-distant future…

        • M7

          I agree totally. However, and this isn’t very likely, If your assembled group of monsters are skilled, then you’re in bonus territory.

          • zacked

            Sure, but the important thing is the skill, the size is just a bonus. And the supply of skilled, big, fast skaters is extremely small, so if you focus on size you’re gonna end up with a bunch of lumbering guys.

            That’s how we got Teuvo at 18.

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            You hit the nail square on the head. Burke values size over skill, brute strength over speed. The complete package is obviously ideal, but if you’ve got to choose skill+speed tend to beat size+strength. You can’t hit what you can’t catch.

          • M7

            Yes, agree – that was exactly my point.

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    I got what I wanted, a game seven in Colorado. Don’t care who wins as long as it goes to triple overtime.

    • SuperHawk27

      Quintuple overtime or the Hawks will need 7 games to finish, whoever it is, off…

  • SuperHawk27

    So glad the Wild won last night. I don’t care who wins, but I’m just glad the Hawks get another couple days rest.

    From what I was able to watch last night, the young guys from Colorado are in for a treat if they play the Hawks. Everyone likes to use regular season stats to project what will happen in the playoffs….but this is a new season where they will have the FULL attention of the Hawks…

    The Wild on the other hand are a 7th seed for a reason….They have some good players but they don’t have a goalie and they D-men after the first pairing are eh….Plus if the Hawks get the wild, they get home ice. Bonus!

    • zacked

      Kuemper’s been excellent this postseason. The problem for the Wild is that they started Bryz in the first two games.

      • SuperHawk27

        He is average, but I agree, he has been good in the 4 games he started.

        • chichicagochi

          Crawford’d

    • YoAdrienne

      I’m pleased to see the Wild win, too. And, while I don’t particularly care who wins, either, part of me hopes they take Game 7, just because I hate the Avs more. Actually, i hate their goaltender and their coach more. Home ice would be nice, and those of us in Eastern Time would prefer a series that’s all in Central Time, rather than partly in MT. But, the latter was why I preferred the Hawks play the Red Wings last year, rather than go to the West Coast. Be careful of what you wish for…

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    Todd McLellan: “We got cheated. Simple as that,”

    So SJS loses 4-1 and blames it on the ref? Yeah, the GWG was controversial, but then you lost your shit and gave up two more. And you’ve lost a 3-0 lead, but you haven’t lost the series, except that maybe, if that’s your attitude, you’ve already lost it in your mind.

    This is the definition of ‘mixed emotions’ for me. I want to root for Nemo (who got pulled last night and his replacement gave up three in the third), but I can’t root for Torres.

    Pondering, thinking, reflecting. Fuck San Jose, my Nemo love is overshadowed by my love of watching Karma bite Torres and any team stupid enough to sign him in the ass.

    • SuperHawk27

      Good thing Niemi didnt play last night. So you can full on Rage Hate them.

      • VanDorp’sMullet

        I like Niemi and will always have a spot in my heart for him as the goalie that helped get us the 1st Cup, but now that he’s on SJ and he already has a Cup, I don’t have any mixed emotions rooting against SJ at all. Thornton and Torres are enough douche to outweigh that anyway for me.

    • flahawkfan

      Thornton also admitted they lost their shit after that call. Imagine if the Hawks had that mindset. They never would’ve won Game 7 against Detroit last year following the call on Hjammer’s goal . . .

      • raditzzzz

        losing it? if only the video of thorntons slash on bolland at the face off dot wasn’t such poor quality, i would post it here.

        • Waylon

          oh no, you can definitely find it. I’ve watched that one lots of times over the years. He’s a dirty fuckwad, and only goes after players much smaller than him. Coward.

          • Bullitt315

            Not that I’m particularly fond of Thornton, but isn’t he bigger than pretty much everyone?

          • Waylon

            that’s true, but he has a habit of going after guys much smaller than him, and with no reach whatsoever.

    • CozBullsFan

      If the LA completes this comeback, McLellan will be gone.

  • jordyhawk

    I seldom pay much attention to other series, but I will watch Habs v.
    Bruins. Some rivalries may be as intense, but none exceed it. Subby is
    always worth the price of admission, but never moreso than against B’s.
    It will be a fun series to watch.

    • pepe_silvia

      Agreed. I’ll be rooting for the Habs to be honest. I think whoever wins that series goes to the SCF.

      • SuperHawk27

        Whats to over/under on Lucic nut spears for the series? Im setting it at 1.5. Any takers?

        • Waylon

          yeah, except that Lucic will spear someone half his size and then get fined $50 for his egregious transgression. Because the other player didn’t bleed out on the ice, or something.

      • jordyhawk

        Habs definite underdogs but they do have a shot. You gotta like Gallagher; pint-sized and fearless.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      It’s easy to spin numbers in one direction or another, but one little nugget I find amazing is Rask’s career record against the Habs … he’s 3-10-3.

      • jordyhawk

        I saw that as well. While I wouldn’t be rushing out to bet the farm on Habs hopefully it spells trouble for Bruins. Interesting read in yesterday’s Globe and Mail about changes in Bruins since 2011; more speed, particularly at back–not so much the lumbering Bruins but still big.

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          My money would still be with Boston, no question. Still, sometimes the threat of a team is just so exclusively mental … the feeling that everything has to go right just to score a single goal, the idea that you’re going to get physically pummeled. Means a lot to be able to enter a series without any of those thoughts in the back of your team’s collective brain.

          • jordyhawk

            The Bruins can definitely seem impregnable at times (Pens found that out last year). But if you persevere and break through it can be a catalyst as well. Oduya’s goal to tie game 1 vs. them last year was going 2 feet wide, but we got the puck through even though there was nothing there and we caught a break. Shaw’s winner was a blueprint of perseverance. It will no doubt be tough for Habs though and if it gets beyond 5 games the grind will be brutal.

          • VerStig

            That sounds like one of the key goals we got in this last series…

          • Z-man19

            is that how you feel going into a gumball bet?

        • ChicagoNativeSon

          That’s *partially a misconception that they’re big. I don’t have the data for this year, but last year BOS ranked 26th in the league in weight and 21st in height. (Hawks were 20th and 29th).

          BUT…

          *If you normalize the data based on each player’s ice time share, BOS ends up being one of the bigger teams. (rank: 4th, weight and 5th, height).

          • jordyhawk

            Interesting numbers. They sure seem big though; maybe hard is a better word (Bergeron is listed at 194 which is 10 pounds under the league average but he is nails as are many of their guys).

    • YoAdrienne

      I’m rooting for the Habs. I have a feeling this one might go 7 games. Definitely one to watch.

      • Waylon

        if Price is on his game, it just might. If not, look out below. MTL has had mucho problemos with the Bruins forechecking in the past.

        • Bullitt315

          I look forward to that series. It’s going to be a complete shit show.

  • Hawkeytalk

    The biggest winner in all of this? The new playoff format. It really is creating some great match ups. And whichever team comes out on top, they truly are the champs.

    • HossBoss

      While it’s great this year, I think that in future years we will be seeing a lot of the same match ups in the first round which i’m on the fence about.

      • jordyhawk

        That will get old fast. I would have much preferred 1 v. 8, …

        • roadhog

          Agreed, I’m not a fan of the new format with division playoffs first. Strong divisions are going to suffer. I’ll take the 1v8 format of the past- it lead to outstanding conference finals. This, not so much.

          • HossBoss

            Thats how I imagine this turning out but this post season still may produce a great East/West Finals

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            which could very well be the same as last season’s

          • HossBoss

            Another Pens sweep would be enjoyable to watch

          • Hawkeytalk

            Disagree, but that’s ok! The match ups have been superb and only one each 4 or 5 game series. The others went to 6 or 7. It’s made for great hockey because they are largely in the division.

          • roadhog

            I see both sides, we’ll see what the conference finals look like over the next 5 or 10 years. My gut tells me that earlier rounds are going to be more entertaining and drawn out than they should be. It also tells me that once a team secures a playoff spot, they will be more tempted to hit cruise than play for additional wins.

          • Bullitt315

            I think it makes winning the division matter more so some 3 teams will skate but if that second team is close, they’ll want the division.

          • zacked

            Yeah, but look at the next round in the West. Not nearly as promising. And hoo boy and I’m gonna be sick of the Blues and Wild soon.

          • chichicagochi

            I think the money has to come in to it at somepoint as well. STL essentially got jobbed a whole round of playoffs, and pretty much whoever loses the battle of Cali.

    • Bannerman

      Is it really that much different, though? Under the old system the 4 vs 5, 3 vs 6 match ups were usually pretty good. The 1 vs 8 and 2 vs 7 are what they would have been. In the East both series are rematches of last year’s 2nd round.

      I’d rather see the top 2 in each division get auto bids and home ice and make the last 4 wild cards. There would still be good match ups and it wouldn’t be the same ones for 3-4 years in a row.

  • zacked

    Am I allowed to talk crap about the Wolves? On the one hand, they’re all baby Blues; on the other, what’s overlap in Blackhawks and Wolves fandoms?

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Many casual hockey fans don’t understand why folks show up to Wolves / Icehogs games in Blackhawks jerseys and root for Rockford.

      Temper your ire against the Wolves with pity, remember that baring a trade, they will grow up to be Blues, and therefore never glimpse the holy chalice of hockey.

    • SuperHawk27

      It’s weird to be honest. Vancouver was affiliated with them last year or the year before, so I’m not sure if there is much overlap.

    • DesertHawk

      I’ve got a Wolves jersey. Because I like wolves outside of hockey. I wish they were our farm team though, makes more sense than Rockford for me. Same city and all…

      • chidiver

        Probably wouldn’t happen. There was definitely tension between the two organizations when the Wolves were created. Probably less now that WWW is dead.

        • DesertHawk

          I don’t think it ever will, I’d accept them being the farm team of not douchey teams at the least… I can’t wear my super snazzy jersey with a pissed off wolf on it, cause people will think I like the Blues though… which makes me sad.

          • Bullitt315

            Only people that know they’re associated. Aren’t you out west. Nobody knows! They’ll probably think you’re a yotes fan…

          • DesertHawk

            I’ll know… :’(

    • wanker751

      I am a Wolves STH since 2008. It is weird but I get over it…. the are Wolves here and Blues there…

      The Hawks affiliation is something I really hope for…though keep there was talks of Levin bringing an NHL team to Seattle….if that ever happens then Hawks could never happen per league rules…

      • wanker751

        On a side note the a great thing about the Blues getting booted is the Wolves will get better once Cracknell and possibly Porter get sent down… Talk about a Win-Win for fans of both!

      • zacked

        I don’t actually have anything against the Wolves, but I’m an Amerks fan, so may you lose the next two games!

        • wanker751

          Oh it’s on now! :-) One thing I saw is Cracknell has to go through waivers to come back down…what is stopping Buffalo from claiming him so he does not have to come back to the Wolves? He is a FA next year as it is… Not sure if a parent club even cares just a thought…

      • lizmcneill

        They have a bit of a rep as being not great developmentally. I like the affiliation to stay with our mortal enemies in that case.

        • wanker751

          Meh I think that has to do with shitty drafting by others placing blame on the Wolves organization honestly…

          Atlanta always drafted great AHL talent. Vancouver whined about it but really when has Vancouver not whined or placed the blame on themselves… They allowed Van to hire a coach as part of the agreement for example..

          But if that is true, I agree…

  • laaarmer

    I kind of used to like Joe Thornton. Last night, that guy is a joke. He’s a fucker. Does not deserve to win.

    • jordyhawk

      aka No Show Joe.

      • ChicagoNativeSon

        Poof!

    • Waylon

      After the shit he pulled against the Hawks, I basically disliked him from then onward. They pulled the same crap against the Hawks after the end of game 2, trying fight everyone near their vicinity. Both he and Couture really showed their true mettle there at the end of the game – not. I see a team doing their usual MO when things don’t go their way, which is to self – destruct.

    • Z-man19

      His slash to Bolly did that for me, fuck that guy

    • unkind

      Never liked him just because i know him and toews don’t like each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6go7EZ0gog

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      Don’t know why but I’ve never liked him. Maybe it was the Bruin fans who insisted he was all that is hockey and yet his teams failed year after year. He has pretty impressive stats, but I think he needs a few cups if he wants to get into the hall.

      • laaarmer

        I’m not talking about hockey talent. He is obviously a great player and will make the HOF with or without. Shane Down is in the same boat. He will not be winning a cup any time soon. hell, Ray Bourque had to be traded to get his cup. Denis Savard didn’t even hardly play, but got his, how does that make him more HOF worthy?. Teams win cups, individuals don’t. HOF is for the individual.

        Anyway, I’d rather have Doan than Thornton any day of any week.

        • laaarmer

          Joe may not make the HOF based on his numbers. If he makes it, Larmer better fucking get in.

          Fucking HOF

          • TheRealBBOX

            Larmer not being in the HoF is one of the more ridiculous things I’ve seen.

          • VanDorp’sMullet

            /Ron Santo’d

          • TheRealBBOX

            So I have to wait until he’s dead? That sucks.

          • Waylon

            no question. Another example of those who don’t toot their own horn (or have others toot if for them) often get hosed in HOF voting. If Laarms had played his entire career in NYC he would’ve been in by now.

          • YoAdrienne

            I kind of feel the same way about his number not being retired by the Hawks. Not that I think Ben Smith is unworthy of wearing it…

          • VanDorp’sMullet

            Larmer better get in regardless of whether or not Thornton does. The dude was flat out the best 2-way winger of his time… similar to Hossa now. That he’s been left out and has hardly garnered a sniff is a fucking fail that makes the NHL HOF a joke.

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          I knew you like Doan. I KNEW it.

          • laaarmer

            I hate that fucker like I hate Backes.

  • Bob Lanz

    Just enjoying San J one epic meltdown similar to oh very year.

    St. Louis’d

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)
    • bizarrohairhelmet

      Pretty cool. I like that the Blackhawks have two.

      • chidiver

        Heh. I see what you did there.

    • Bob in EP

      St Louis’ looks like something the court jester might carry.

  • bizarrohairhelmet

    Cap’n turned 26 today.

    • HossBoss

      Thats a shame it couldn’t have been on Friday or Saturday. Life events = goals for this team apparently.

    • corbant

      Just realized it’s also Cutler’s birthday. Not sure if that’s a good or bad thing.

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

    Preemptive Palomino,
    Please leave it the fuck alone! Just please!

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      It should never have been a story in the first place.

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        What the fuck are we not talking about? Peter Horachek? Hardly seems controversial.

        • MySpoonIsTooBig

          No we’re talking about the Spanish Inquisition and how nobody expects it

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            We’re palomino’d on the Spanish Inquisition before I even got a chance to contribute my two cents?

          • Preacher

            Use the comfy chair!

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            I feel like I’ve lost a part of my brain. All these words, I’m looking at them like I’ve stepped into a David Lynch movie. Really, is there something we’re not talking about?

          • laaarmer

            Blue…..NO RED!

            AHHHHHHHH!

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

          • laaarmer

            African or European?

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            Well how should I know thaAHHHHHHH!

          • laaarmer

            It’s either the rancher in Utah or the Clippers, but I said I wouldn’t talk about it.

            Or Putin.

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            Putin clipped a Utah rancher? Sounds plausible

          • laaarmer

            Seriously, could Putin be any more like a James Bond movie arch criminal mastermind?
            (I heard this on The Daily Show)

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            I don’t think it’s possible. He may have been created in a lab by Ian Flemming

          • 1benmenno

            Palomino!

          • 1benmenno

            I think that’s a palomino Putin is riding. Shirtless

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Drama. Or something, or nothing.

    • laaarmer

      OK. I won’t talk about it, whatever it is.

      But how about that situation in………

      • Why

        Yeah. We should do something about that.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      You’re in luck. No one else has spotted the controversy/conspiracy. Unless it’s Monty Python quotations you’re worried about.

      • MySpoonIsTooBig

        TMFF, if you were trying to palomino Monty Python quotes I’m sorry I just couldn’t help myself

      • bizarrohairhelmet

        I’ve met a few billionaires’ hos. I’m surprised this kind of thing doesn’t happen more often.

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          Maybe it does happen more. Maybe our not knowing about it is just a matter of technology. Not everyone’s equally blessed at knowing how to work a phone.

  • pepe_silvia

    Eat shit, Donald Sterling.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      Was a pretty fine reaction by the league–and way way way unexpected. Good shit there, though.

      • pepe_silvia

        Definitely unexpected, only because the other big sports associations haven’t taken big stances like this before. But I am very happy to see it. Props to Silver.

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          yep

      • roadhog

        Gotta believe other owners were consulted before the ban.

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          Yeah, I’d think there were some serious non-trackable texts and phone calls going on.

      • cliffkoroll

        Yeah, a billionaire that can’t keep his hos in line. Pathetic.The guy is an embarrassment.

        • 1benmenno

          It’s hard out here for a pimp

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          He could learn a thing or two from Adelson … if by hos we mean potential candidates. Also, ho? How do you know it isn’t love? You’re jaded, bro.

    • ChicagoNativeSon

      You just can’t find a good palomino these days.

      • bizarrohairhelmet

        ¡Ay, caramba!

      • Bullitt315

        This is a basketball blog so it’s relevant…

        • DesertHawk

          Second City is in the throes of it’s own tangency right now too.

          • Bullitt315

            Well the clippers play in LA. There’s hockey in LA. I think they even play in the same building. So, hockey’d

          • VerStig

            For a while I thought you meant Second City, the comedy club, instead of Second City Hockey, the hockey comedy club.

          • DesertHawk

            I actually just meant the entirety of Chicago.

            /not actually

          • Why

            Oh my.

            It’s playoff time. Go lynch mob. Sick’em on somebody other than Bollig.

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      Didn’t you see TMFF’s plea?

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        But if we can’t talk about fuckfaces then we can’t talk about the Blues or Torres.

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          Did you see how quickly Torres was off the ice once he got into actual fisticuffs? It looked like he was begging for the misconduct. I think I saw him hail a taxi at the end of the tunnel.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Heh, no, didn’t see that. I didn’t watch the game at all out here (too late for a non-Hawks game), and the highlights I saw didn’t show it. I may go back in hockeystreams at watch that part of the game now, though.

      • ChicagoNativeSon

        TMFF’s plea was an attempt to restrict pepe’s rights under the 1st Amendment. Pepe wasn’t having it.

        Isn’t it ironic?
        o_O

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          There are no 1st amendment rights here. He’s free to go talk about how silly banning one owner is when practically every other owner is exactly the same way in whatever state-owned (overt) place he wants.

          • 1benmenno

            Mark Cuban is neither a mark nor a Cuban. Discuss.

        • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

          No, it was simply a request, not restricting shit, that is up to the ToS. The First Amendment protects you from GOVT, not what the owners of a website (or business) want on there site/place.

          • ChicagoNativeSon

            Twas a joke. Relax. Don’t do it.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

            FIRE!!!!!

      • pepe_silvia

        I did, but forgot what palomino meant. Mental lapse. Forgive me. :(

    • Paul the Fossil

      Im surprised that the league thinks it can do that and make it stick…the NBA’s league agreement must have some remarkably broad language. Won’t be surprised if Sterling decides to fight it out in court. To be able to summarily eject an _owner_ of the association for actions other than defrauding the association or illegality, thats quite an assertion of authority on the association’s part.

      • chichicagochi

        There’s a private constitution that the owners have agreed to that needs a 3/4′s vote in order to oust. I’m sure Silver has acquired the necessary votes to oust before announcing this.

        • Paul the Fossil

          CNN now quotes Silver as urging the other owners to vote to expel him. Whether thats genuine or just for show (he’s already polled them and thinks he has the votes lined up) is unclear. You’d sure think he would before going out on such a limb, yea.

          • chichicagochi

            Any idiot who voted no would also be immediately viewed as a bigot.

          • cliffkoroll

            You have provided an excellent description of the mechanism at work here.

          • Paul the Fossil

            I doubt it will be a public voting though.

  • lizmcneill

    Told #Blackhawks Jonathan Toews sent at least one #stlblues player a text saying St. Louis should have won the series— Andy Strickland (@andystrickland) April 29, 2014

    Captain, you really shouldn’t enable Oshie’s delusions, it would be kinder in the long run.

    • DJ

      “Could’ve”? Most definitely. “Should’ve”? I don’t know…

    • The Other One

      Yea, my guess is that Toews didn’t say quite that. Probably something along the lines of “you were in it to the end, played with heart, and with a couple of breaks, StL could have won it”. But, alas, those breaks didn’t happen and the better team won the series. JT has faith in his team.
      Project much Strickland?

    • bizarrohairhelmet
      • The Other One

        Also… @andystrikland was told that #stlblues should have drafted #Blackhawks Jonathan Toews instead of Erik Johnson in 2006 #NHLDraft

        • wihawkfan

          ouch!! expect your $5,000 fine for that shot to the blue’s nuts!

    • wihawkfan

      its probably someone he respects or is a friend with in the off-season.

      maybe a former teamate?

      old college teammate: tj oshie
      old shattuck st. mary’s teammate: no idea here and can’t find anything
      olympic teammate: jabe o’meester or peiterangleo

    • roadhog

      I’m betting “should” was transcribed from “could” in a conciliatory tone.

      • lizmcneill

        Yep. There’s a game of telephone going on here.

      • nogreat

        100% sure this is the correct interpretation. As if Toews would ever tell anyone else they deserved a win he worked his ass off for…

    • Bob in EP

      This is what happens when you use paint stripper without proper ventilation.

    • Why

      That should make the hypothetical St. Louis Blues who dwell on Earth-37 quite happy.

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

    Does anybody know of a free Randon Number Generator Add-In for excel?
    .
    I am bound by the limit of the built in one, patterns have developed that is causing things occur WELL beyond the RNG probability (20% vice 10% and 5% vice 10%). Yes I have checked the formulas, and the RNG outputs that would initiate a possibility at 10%, but based on how it works, those values are being selected 20% (or 5%) of the time, vice 10%. So 1 in 10 selection meet the threshold, but 2 in 10(or 40) of those are being selected on a 10% probability set up.

    • VerStig

      I’m pretty sure the built-in functions (for uniform or normal random numbers) should suit your purposes, but I’m not sure I follow what your problem is or what you’re trying to do? Happy to take this offline if it’d take too long to explain here.

      • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

        It is limited to about 12M before it repeats. My current set up is at ~1.7M per sim, and I am simulating thousands of times.
        .
        I am using prime number offsets to try to prevent in-situ reruns. Running a set right now to see.
        .
        Here is how it goes
        I have a column for Goals For (GF), this has a fixed number assigned to it, the SH% of a team for a situation. A Random number is generated, if the SH% value exceeds to RNG, it is meets the FIRST threshold. When looking at the raw data at this point, say SH% is 10%, 1 in 10 RNG values exceed 0.1 (using 0.0-1.0 RNG limits).
        The second threshold is if a SOG is met. It goes through similar set of values from CF to FF to SF. The SF rate is meeting expectations of say 30 per game. The GF is now determined if it meets BOTH a SF has occurred and the GF threshold is exceeded.
        Based on this, 1 in 10 SOG should result in 1 goal, based on the 10% SH% threshold, but I am getting a SH% of about 20%., meaning 1 in 5 are generating a goal.
        .
        This has run true for over 10,000 runs. I can see the RNG value, it is occurring properly. The SH% value is correct and the AND gates are operating correct. The result is not matching ideal math, even over large samples. The only error I cannot eliminate is the inherent patterns in the excel RNG, which occur at around 12,000,000.

        • VerStig

          OK… I guess I wouldn’t have imagined ever needing 12 million random numbers even for a Monte Carlo, but one thing you might try is the Random Number Generation feature in the Data Analysis ToolPak (one of the add-ins that comes pre-installed with Excel).

          If that still gives you repeats, you can do one set of random numbers with its own random seed, and another set with a different seed.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

            After this set finishes, I will take a look at that, that sounds like it would work perfectly.
            .
            I did not think 12M would be an issue either, I am not sure if I have hit some sort of large number resonance or what, but what I am seeing, Ideal is way too far off of actual to chalk up to random deviation.
            .
            Perhaps there is some sort of underlying error I just have not come across, but if so, I have no idea were or even how to discover it.

          • VerStig

            It’s possible that you just stumbled upon a limitation of Excel’s RNG. There’s no such thing as true random number generation — in computer science circles these algorithms are generally said to be generating pseudorandom numbers.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

            Yeah, I have learned that and Excels has a relatively “short” period (~12M). It could be something else, I want to try your suggestion, but I am thinking it is the RNG, just does not make sense otherwise.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            Here’s a thought:

            “Paul Wilmott, in his Quantitative Finance book, simply adds up the results of 12 calls to RAND() and subtracts 6 for a good approximation to a Normal variable. Quick n Dirty”

            Even better would be to issue RAND()x number of calls to RAND() and then subtract that RAND()x/2

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

            That is one route.
            Another I am looking at is

            Rand1[0.0-0.2], Rand2[0.2-0.4], Rand3[0.4-0.6], Rand4[0.6-0.8], Rand5[0.8-1.0].
            Rand6. =If(Rand,6>=0.2, Rand1, If(Rand6,>0.4,Rand2, etc…
            This will add by a factor of 5, the amount the random sequencing. (I hope), by “randomly” choosing one of 5 random numbers for the logic test.

          • VerStig

            Hard to do that without VBA or code, isn’t it? Unless you use IF’s which would be a nightmare.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            I would do the sloppy group of hidden columns and limit it to 10 or less possibilities

        • Z-man19

          I’m upboating despite that I didn’t read it all and didn’t understand most of what I did read.

          • roadhog

            Lemming.

          • Z-man19

            I upboated you too, you make me think of bacon

          • roadhog

            I upboated it too, cuz I’m a lemming pig.

          • 1benmenno

            You make me think of lemmings wrapped in bacon

          • Z-man19

            I’ll stick to bacon wrapped in bacon

          • roadhog

            Beer Batter Deep Fried . . . on a stick . . .

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          How often are you accessing your random function? Sometimes we would dilate a random number by actual 100ths of a second to give yourself 2 more orders of random magnitude.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

            Very good question, nowhere near 1.7M, off the top of my head, maybe 40,000-50,000 per sim IIRC (it is currently running right now, 5,000 game test set CHI vs COL). The rest of the cells are IF, ANDs, OR, SUM, SUMIF, COUNTIF, etc…
            .
            Just cannot figure out why it is hitting random numbers at the occurrence it is.

          • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

            On a side note,
            Watching this sim progress (1839 games) Hawks 1015-824, 5682 GF, 4836 GA.3.09 GF/G , 2.63 GA/G.
            these are based off of regular season, 5v5 Close, 5v5 tied, 5v5 2+ goal lead and trail, 5v4, 4v5, 4v4 scenarios, and limited to 3OT before 50% chance determines winner.
            .
            Ironically, even with the question I have brought up, in ALL scenarios combined, the results are pretty close to ideal. Within acceptable range for me.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            The random number generator has always been inadequate. With Excel 2003, Microsoft attempted to implement the Wichmann–Hill generator and failed to implement it correctly. The fixed version appears in Excel 2007 but this fix was done incorrectly. Microsoft has twice failed to implement correctly the dozen lines of code that constitute the Wichmann–Hill generator; this is something that any undergraduate computer science major should be able to do. The Excel random number generator does not fulfill the basic requirements for a random number generator to be used for scientific purposes:
            it is not known to pass standard randomness tests, e.g., L’Ecuyer and Simard’s (2007) CRUSH tests (these supersede Marsaglia’s (1996) DIEHARD tests—see Altman et al. (2004) for a comparison);
            it is not known to produce numbers that are approximately independent in a moderate number of dimensions;
            it has an unknown period length; and
            it is not reproducible.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            Here’s where I got that from:

            http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5886237/how-good-is-the-rand-function-in-excel-for-monte-carlo-simulation

            Excel doesn’t use an actual random number generator. It uses a random number approximation.

          • roadhog

            I can’t tell you the last time I got some random magnitude.

    • ChicagoNativeSon

      Burma.

      • roadhog

        Wrong. It’s “What is Burma?”

        • YoAdrienne

          He panicked..

  • roadhog

    St. Louis Media is now in the propping up false idols business . . . (Backes brain must be in his toe.) What a hot steamy pile, maybe he was embellishing, I was witness and I call BULL.
    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/professional/bluenotes-focus-turns-to-miller-s-future/article_c47f0fa6-4548-5ce8-bae9-5e6a2e87fd66.html

    • Preacher

      See? It WASN’T a concussion. I told y’all so. What he had was whiplash. Couldn’t turn his head. Or his toe. So, yeah, 2 games off and all healed up.

      • roadhog

        Whiplash should have only got Seabs a game misconduct.

    • Fleshrifle

      If they want to proclaim that Hitchcock was paid off to play bad lines because he was caught with some food porn pictures or the STL media proclaims that Backes was in fact a cyborg and Seabrooks was carrying a big magnet to mess with this memory…I don’t know why we should fucking care. The team is dismissed, their organization is dismissed and their media should be dismissed. I’ll read SLGT next October. Until then…NEXT

      • Preacher

        “food porn”
        Good one!
        Now, where’s the spray cheese?

        • Fleshrifle

          That’s not tanning spray?!?! That’s velveeta!

        • roadhog

          Spray cheese and bugles though . . .

      • roadhog

        The pathetic posturing provokes puking from the pig. You’re right, the Blues were bettered and banished by the Blackhawks, so let them be bygones.

  • BestPredsForward

    If anyone else is worried about Tomas Hertl’s happiness over this series, you now don’t have to!

    https://twitter.com/TomasHertl48/status/461191481605120001

    • lizmcneill

      He’s great.

  • CozBullsFan

    Just goes to show, you can say whatever you want in America freely. What happens afterwards, is your own doing.

    • Bullitt315

      Just goes to show, you can infect people (probably multiple) with HIV (when it was basically a death sentence to the not well connected), and be seen as the good guy. Would I rather have my feelings hurt, or HIV. Tough choice

      • 1benmenno

        Wait. No. Can you back up a bit?

        • Bullitt315

          Back up to the months preceding November 7, 1991

          Everybody here has at some point said something in private that if were recorded and made public would get you in trouble. Hell, Fels called somebody Faggy myfaggertson (or something along those lines) publicly and no one here is up in arms boycotting TCI (nor in my belief should they) Should Fels be banned from hawks games for being an anti-homosexual bigot?

          • Z-man19

            Yes, we should all get into trouble for saying shit like that, maybe we’d stop hating each other for stupid reasons

          • Bullitt315

            humans will always hate each other for stupid reasons.

          • 1benmenno

            That’s exactly the reasoning Sterling gave. Black Jews in Israel are treated as inferior to white Jews. It’s just the way of the world. He is implying that the status quo is the way it is for a reason. Circular reasoning.

          • 1benmenno

            Which issue do you want to focus on? You are all over the place. Never mind. This will not end well

          • Bullitt315

            Why the fuck are we talking about a basketball owner on a hockey site? Some one tosses off-handed remark that is so far off from hockey it’s not even in the same stadium (heh) for the social affirmations.

          • Z-man19

            Seriously? This place has never gone head first into a social discussion when a hockey player said some dumb shit?

          • Bullitt315

            At least then it’s sorta related to hockey. We’re not even in the same sport.

          • 1benmenno

            The players were ready to boycott. This is not just about basketball or race. It’s about the power of professional athletes to influence the decisions of their employers

          • YoAdrienne

            There’ also a nice smattering of sexism in it. The guy’s history with women is abhorrent, and that includes female employees, not just his girlfriend.

          • 1benmenno

            He’s despicable and has been for years. He’s always been able to buy his way out of a tight spot. Not this time. Employees get shit-canned all the time for stuff they do on their off hours. Now an employer gets to see how it feels.

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Fels doesn’t hire and fire us and we’re free to go where we want if something upsets us. Fels also isn’t part of a larger, what, league of blogs that are duly affected by what he does and says, and there’s also, last, a clear difference between dumbly chucking out a sexual epithet for an ill-advised public joke and chucking out an epithet privately in complete earnest. One shows a brain cramp, imo, while the other one shows the absence of a brain to cramp.

      • lizmcneill

        Whut?

      • Waylon

        I think Kareem Abdul – Jabbar’s recent interview on the entire manner were typically coherent and intelligent.

        • Bullitt315

          Yes, I read it and mostly agree. He gets to my point much more eloquently.

        • 1benmenno

          I agree with everything except that bit about throwing people in jail for making something private public

          • Waylon

            well, I think that’s an issue for the courts to decide.

      • Waylon
    • 1benmenno

      Yup. That Mike Milbury is surely a dumbass

      • Z-man19

        What does Shirley have to do with it? That’s kinda harsh lumping her in with Milbury

        • 1benmenno

          Have you ever seen a grown lutefisk naked?

          • roadhog

            Oh stewardess, I speak jive . . .

          • Z-man19

            I saw you bend over in the shower once, does that count?

          • 1benmenno

            Shrinkage. It was cold

  • chichicagochi
    • bizarrohairhelmet

      Holy shit, is it funny.

      • 1benmenno

        I think you’re biased

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          ACTUALLY, I laughed and wrote that at the Joffrey line and before I saw anything that might make me biased, so you can stuff your negativity in a nightsack, mr. grumpy pants.

    • Accipiter

      The Shaun White thing makes no sense.

      • chichicagochi

        I noticed that, but I can’t remember who it is but someone on ToS really hates the Olympos

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          McClure hates the Olympics.

      • YoAdrienne

        Shaun White was heavily hyped to win another gold medal, and he flopped. I guess they were suggesting that Oshie was supposed to be a big hero in this playoff series, but he kind of flopped, too.

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces (TMFF)

    And I am one!
    .

    Happy Left-Handers Day!

    About 10 percent of people write with their left hand – a trait tenuously tied to intelligence and creativity, not to mention inky pinkies. And some experts say this small but steady legion sheds light on the brain. Despite their minority status, lefties are more likely to excel in music, mathematics and athletics, according to studies.

    • DesertHawk

      I am good at music and math… but not athletics… curse my right handedness!!!