NHL: Chicago Blackhawks at Anaheim Ducks

Morning Links 3.22.13

Could the Hawks not finish 1st in the West? (Daily Herald)

88 has become The Total Package: (Suntimes)

Time to take advantage: (Comcast)

The game fit the billing: (Blackhawks.Com)

Thoughts and Strategies: (Fox 32 WFLD)

Players feel safer: (Winnipeg Free Press)

So James Neal is the Chad Bradford of the NHL: (Globe and Mail)

5 Questions: (CBC)

D-Bag worlds collide: (PuckDaddy)

Marty scored….Again: (New York Times)

  • red palace

    How Smith continues to get away with this shit, I do not understand.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHmCvacKhx0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    • Accipiter
      • raditzzzz

        you know, after looking at the edler and shaw hit a couple of times,it is clear to me that both players had ample time to see him come out of the crease to play the puck. that leaves them with two choices, take the inside lane close to the net, or slow up and play the goalies stick/make a play at the puck. both decided to go full bore at the goalies body and take the outside lane against the boards. that is going to guarantee contact with the goalie when you have been given ample time to avoid contact.

        i know the players are used to playing the body to separate people from the puck, but you can’t do that to a goalie. i honestly think, putting your effort into blocking the outlet pass, or going in to tie up the goalies stick would produce real chances to pressure the goalie into a mistake, over whatever the hell they are trying to do. i mean, players do this all the time to other players on races to prevent icing/on board battles where a players back is to the open ice, i don’t know why they wouldn’t consider it against goalies playing the puck.

        that evander kane play, though, i think SMITH should’ve gotten an interference call. he obviously came out to play a puck he couldn’t reach, and hampered kane’s ability to go for the puck under the guise of goalie protection. i think that would be a cool president in a situation like that. but in any case, play the goalies stick, and you will have way more success in a conversion because, if anything, you will slow them from returning to the cage on the play.

        • raditzzzz

          precedent* lol.

          • mightymikeD

            cogent and well reasoned analysis as ever.. that said, I don’t think Edler had enough time to do anything other than run into Smith. And this may be one for people with Hockey Brains larger than mine: where does the expectation on players to avoid the goalie shift to the goalie not wandering around where a player would (reasonably) not expect to find him? I’m by no means an advocate of letting goalies get run but at some point a static object (goalie) in a high speed environment like a chase behind the net is going to get clocked and I find it hard to blame the skaters for it.

          • laaarmer

            I see it the same way as you. Smith wanted the contact and he got it. Edler knew he was going to hit him, so he got his moneys worth. I hope Edler only gets one game or just a fine for this.

            Even if he cut to the inside (by the net) Smith is going to flop and Edler will be penalized anyway. Too bad for Edler.

          • DesertHawk

            I kinda see what you’re saying Laaarms the refs have set their own precedent, Smith flops player gets a penalty. Might as well actually nail the goalie, if you’re goin in the box either way.

          • laaarmer

            Let me clarify. Players should avoid hitting a goalie. Edler got a 5 and whatever else he gets he deserves. That being said, Smith gets in his way. I don’t think Edler was thinking Smith would be stupid enough to block his progress, so he did not have time to adjust. It’s really too bad.

          • mightymikeD

            that’s it. It’s a no-win for the skater.

          • Accipiter

            The fans are the winners.

          • raditzzzz

            i know my previous opinion might not be popular, but if you look at the shaw hit, he clearly has time to see smith come out of the crease and he makes a conscious decision to try a high risk play. i actually think players are looking for contact as much if not more than the goalies in these situations. they want to give the goalies something to think about.

            in edler’s case, i can’t say with 100% certainty, but these players are trained to keep their heads up and know where players are on the ice (for their own protection and for an offensive opportunity). imo, edler has got to have some idea that he has gotten out of the crease to try and play the puck. im not a skater and can’t prove that point, but it just makes alot more sense to me to focus these players on making a play on the goalies stick, than trying to keep their momentum and end up for sure making contact and getting a penalty out of it. you can be just as aggressive trying to tie up a goalies stick as you can trying to keep your momentum and play the body. so for me, there could be a win for the skater.

            its only more infuriating, because smith (and to a certain extent all goalies) really want to make sure they get a penalty out of it and their first reaction is to embellish it.

            ron hextall would have none of that:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0XvVmBH0R0

            bonus stand up save on a bad angle shot at 1:13! for more on that, see my forum post musings on bad angle shots.

          • laaarmer

            I know what you are saying. However, Smith is going to flop no mater what Edler does. Smith also has to know that he is getting in the way of a guy moving very fast. Actually he did know and did exactly what he wanted, and Edler fell for it. Once Edler made contact he should have really skated through it. Maybe make Smith think twice about staying in the way on purpose.

            There are two sides to this. Normally I agree that the player has to avoid contact with the goalie, but what Smith does is ask for it.

          • Waylon

            If you look closely at the Smith hit from Shaw, he clearly just grazed the guy, then Smith goes flying, replete with mask being chucked 50 feet away and all other types of rending of goalie garments. Then Smith lays motionless on the ice (aka European Soccer bullshit), until Shaw gets thrown out of the game (aka Red Card). Mission accomplished, Smith is miraculously touched by the hand of God and immediately returns to the game. Complete and utter farce – refs cannot make that kind of call in the playoffs, not ever, unless the goalie is truly injured and the opposing player went full – bore into him. That didn’t happen, so fark Mike Smith and his drama queen bullshit. Give him a game misconduct for disgracing the play and integrity of netminders everywhere.

        • wardrums

          smith takes up a lot of room behind the net – he’s looking for it a lot of times imo. i agree with most things you say radditz, butthe guy looks for contact. Remember the phantom call on Toews. Smith should have got two minutes for embellishment against Edler. Don’t even get me going on his academy award winning performance on the Shaw fly by.

    • raditzzzz

      get away with what?

    • Eddie_The_Eagle50

      I know Smith is a douchenozzle but that contact with Sedin’s mug was incidental.

      • red palace

        If it had been another goaltender, I might agree. But I’ve seen too much from Smith (remember the leap out at Toews that the Captain got penalized for?) to give him any more benefit of the doubt.

        • Eddie_The_Eagle50

          I understand why you feel that way since smith is a drama queen. A little part of me thinks smith probably did do it on purpose but it still looks like he was bracing for contact and didn’t outright sucker punch him.

        • raditzzzz

          yea, when a player is that close in to you and loses footing, the last thing you are thinking is how to punch them on the way in. you only have a split second to make any attempt to brace/protect yourself (half the time you don’t even have time to do that successfully). trying to get a sucker punch in will always come after the contact.

          • red palace

            Your cogent analysis is messing with my venting!!

          • raditzzzz

            ha, its ok. smith is still a chump. im looking forward to the day a ref grows a pair and calls him for embellishment.

          • Accipiter

            Mike Smith crying coyote wolf ?

    • Sparky_The_Barbarian

      True, but there is a certain Karmic Irony involved in Diving against a Sedin.

      • putmeinthemadhouse

        nevermind..

        • Accipiter

          That’s not the play they are referring to.

    • trois murs

      I’m more annoyed as his “instantly throw your hands up to your head when any contact is made behind the night” shit that he pulls every single time. We get it, you were hit, there is likely going to be a penalty. You don’t have to act like there is a sniper in the building with a vendetta against goalies

  • Accipiter
    • VerStig

      Love it.

      • bizarrohairhelmet

        Verstig!

  • justforkicks

    Its interesting that players feel safer with the “tougher” rulebook since my view is that it is just as willy nilly as its ever been in terms of punishments from both the refs and shanahan.

    Am totally ok with not being in first. Would like home ice but won’t be devastated if we don’t get it. this team is fucking good.

    i continue to like kaner’s honesty/self awareness/responsiblity.

    • Eddie_The_Eagle50

      Would like to see the Hawks avoid the Presidents Trophy curse. Besides, the Hawks won the cup from the second seed in 2010 anyway. I’m also liking Kane’s newfound maturity. Like MMD said the other night “give that kid an A”.

      • Paul the Fossil

        There isn’t any President’s Trophy curse: teams that finish first in the regular season do on average slightly better in the playoffs than the teams which finish 2nd or 3rd in the regular season, just as you’d expect. The idea that President’s Trophy winners tend to underachieve in the playoffs relative to what they “should” do is based entirely on a straw-man idea of what they “should” do.

        • mightymikeD

          and also “The Vancouver Canucks” of course…

      • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

        The average team has a 3% chance of winning the Cup at the start of the season.

        The average playoff team has a 6% chance of winning the Cup.

        The Presidents’ Trophy winner makes the Finals 37% of the time and wins the Cup 26% of the time. Some curse.

        Let me know what team is getting 3 to 1 odds in Vegas.

        So I can bet against them.

        • DesertHawk

          You and your numbers have no place here!!!

          • laaarmer

            I concur

        • Eddie_The_Eagle50

          I know calling it a curse is a bit dramatic considering curses don’t really exist or do they? Anyway, it’s much like Cubs fans saying their team is cursed. The Cubs aren’t cursed. They are just a sorry organization that needs to make better decisions and play better baseball.

          • laaarmer

            Like field easy ground ball hit to the shortstop instead of blaming a fan for touching a ball?

          • Eddie_The_Eagle50

            Yeah, that probably would’ve helped in the play better baseball category, but lets just let them stick to the being cursed argument.

          • Waylon

            More like your manager keeping his ass firmly on the bench while two of his players go batshit in front of everyone on a fairly inconsequential play.

          • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

            No, you’re wrong again. The Cubs actually are cursed.

            And I have the numbers to prove it.

        • Sparky_The_Barbarian

          Only one of the last eight president’s cup winner’s has won the SC, Scum in 2008.

          • Paul the Fossil

            That framing — that President’s Trophy winners “should” win the Stanley Cup — is pretty crazy in a league having a 16-team single-elimination playoff field, for exactly the reasons that CNS’s numbers illustrate.

            But the thing that maybe most feeds the “curse” meme among NHL fans is when a President’s winner flames out in the first round. We know about that around here sadly, as does Q from his time in St. Louis…an average NHL playoff team has a 50% chance of making it out of the first round. President’s Trophy winners have won the first round 76% of the time since the trophy was inaugurated in 1985…that rate was running at 86% as of a few years ago but the recent results [three of the last four President's winners bombing out in the first round] has knocked it down.

          • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

            Why did you happen to pick 8 years in stead of 9? Well, because 3 of the 4 PTW’s before that won the Cup, of course. (drama!)

            So 4 of the last 13 have won the Cup, or 31%. Which is actually higher than the historical 26% rate.

            And if we simply include just 1 of those 3 PTW’s, then 2 of the last 9 winners have won the Cup. Based on historic averages, one would expect 2 Cup winners in 8 years. Oh noes! It’s a curse!

            To stay on pace with historic averages, you would expect 1 Cup winner in the next 3 seasons. (could be 0, could be all 3)

            Myth Busted.

  • mad-hatter
    • Eddie_The_Eagle50

      Well, we may see him in the indianhead with expanded rosters or they may choose to leave him at the rock since they are contending for the playoffs.

  • mad-hatter

    Is it at all possible that Brookbank could be trade bait, at least if only for some prospects? Since we’ll probably be keeping Montador until his contract can be bought out, unloading Bbank would at least allow us to maybe call someone up.

    • Accipiter

      I’d keep him for depth on D. After the trade deadline we can call up whomever we want.

  • KenOda

    I love when Joe has links on days my team has a bus trip. Thanks for the reading material Joe. Also beef jerky and pineapple juice was a bad combo.

  • ballyb11

    “18 games to play”

    You gotta be shitting me.

    • DesertHawk

      No? Not sure where you’re goin with that…

    • justforkicks

      what?

  • mightymikeD

    did anyone see Fluffy’s fight with Frazer McClaren? I’m no lip-reader but I think he clearly says “Please save me from getting punched by Murdersaurus” to the refs towards the end

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6p71JUigQ

    • Eddie_The_Eagle50

      Classic fluffy right there. Hulk grab, hulk smash.

    • wardrums

      thanks for sharing that mmd – is McClaren suicidal?
      although what I think he said was, “C’mon ref, Scott’s had enough. Do you want him to break his hand?”

    • Flavius

      He can’t skate, pass or shoot, but that fighting on skates thing, he’s got that nailed

    • raditzzzz

      more impressive is colton orr droppin scott!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnjFmQVys4M

      • Accipiter

        No one ever suspects the body shot.

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    Really don’t give a crap about winning the west in the regular season. Doesn’t Boudreau have a record of doing great in the regular season and folding up like a tent in the playoffs?

    • Eddie_The_Eagle50

      Yeah, ovechkin and the gang seemed to always pack it up in the playoffs after having a great regular season. Someone correct if I’m wrong but I do think the caps did make the ECF under Boudreau one season.

      • mad-hatter

        No, since 2008 they’ve never made it out of the Semis.

        • Eddie_The_Eagle50

          Thanks for the correction. For some crazy reason I thought they had one good playoff run under boudreau.

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          I see you coached your way out of the semis. Deos mio, man. Liam and me, we’re gonna fuck you up.

          • Flavius

            Nobody fucks with the Jesus

    • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

      In 2010, Q had a past record of folding like a tent in the playoffs.

  • mad-hatter

    Looks like Hossa’s out Monday.

    • DesertHawk

      So no longer day to day then?

      • mad-hatter

        Yeah. I don’t think they’re placing him on IR though. Just that it’s not expected to be long term.

        • DesertHawk

          Well boo…

          • Accipiter

            You talking to your hamster ?

          • DesertHawk

            He’s bummed about Hoss being out too.

    • corbant

      Boo-urns.

    • putmeinthemadhouse

      better see someone called up, im gonna lose my shit if carcillo dresses again.

      • mad-hatter

        We can’t call anyone up without sending someone down, and that doesn’t look like it’s happening soon. I’m already prepared for Q’s continuing stupidity and Kane’s second 25 minute game.

      • justforkicks

        Why don’t we send down Bollig, bring up smith or morin or someone who can actually slot in as the 2nd line center, keep kane on the 1st line and doubleshift stals or someone on the 4th line since Carcillo doesn’t even play enough to help there.

  • wardrums

    did anyone see Kronwall’s latest decapitaion attempt. How is not a suspendable offense? Shaw bumps into Smith last year and gets three games – and Kronwall gets away with the hit on Coyle. Give me a break.
    I hate to say this, and will probably regret it, but Krowall needs to be helped off the ice, if you know what I mean.

    • Accipiter

      I saw it, meh.

      • Wardrums

        Kronwall is one of the biggest headhunters in the league. He’s quite good at it, although still could learn a thing or two from Torres.

        He targeted Coyles head – plain and simple.

        • Accipiter

          Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

          • http://www.facebook.com/joel.keele.50 Joel Keele

            And the Detroit announcers are touting Kronwall as a Norris candidate!!

  • mightymikeD

    This is a comment from the PDL article on the No-Ban-For-Nash (it’s here: http://www.bloguin.com/puckdrunklove/)
    “Must have “ruled” Kopecky went into a tuck causing Nash to hit him in the head…”

    Please feel free to make up your own “Tuck” jokes

    • Flavius

      Purported jokes