• Joe Banks

    Keep chugging away, Saad, keep chugging away…
    I liked the move where he split himself in two to get around a defender.

    • Chesterfield King

      I love the scamp so much. I want him to go on a tear, starting against the Sharks

      • Paul the Fossil

        Yea he is really looking good out there. Every bit as energetic as Shaw but in more control and with more size and more skill…a definite keeper.

      • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        Oh ya? Why don’t you MARRY HIM? OUCH! BURN!!!!!!!!!!! You walked right into that, sucker. I killed you on that one. Face.

        • Accipiter

          Probably because Saad isn’t ready to settle down.

          • mightymikeD

            Hey! I’m the only one who is actually married to a Hawk.. Mrs Montador, anyone?

      • Joe Banks

        I too, am waiting for the Saad tear

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      Must be so frustrating for him that he still hasn’t been able to put one home. But he’s clearly getting more comfortable from game to game as evidenced by the way he’s playing, and I’d wager that once he finally breaks through and pots one the 2nd one will come much easier than the 1st…

    • 10thMountainFire

      Saad may be my favorite non-Hossa to watch right now. He’s been flying.

      • Joe Banks

        My favorite non-Hossa… I’m gonna steal that line from you. Hope you don’t mind.

  • Paul the Fossil

    Loved Q’s quotes about Emery. He so rarely gets out of bland-coach-cliche mode in the postgame interviews [which isn't a criticism, his job includes keeping everybody on a relatively even keel]…shows what an impression Emery’s game made in the locker room.

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    An awesome goalie win by Emery, well deserving of first star, worth mentioning as goalies rarely get even a third star unless they pitch a no no. I am, however, concerned that we required such a feat of Razor against the Calgary Flames. Out shot 24-6 in the third by The Flames? That doesn’t include blocked shots and missed open nets….

    And I remember the D being pretty sound, and I didn’t have any scotch for that game….

    2 points is 2 points, especially on the road, especially in Alberta, who is seeking her revenge by sending wave after wave of her clippers to Chicago, trying to make Chicago look more like Alberta, but with better food.

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      Sometimes you have a bad game. Maybe it was because it was the back end of a back-to-back, maybe it was because it was their 3rd game in 4 nights, maybe it was because they didn’t arrive at their hotel in Calgary until 2AM and were pleasantly woken by jackhammers 5 hours later. Or maybe none of that matters and they’d have played like shit even with a couple of days off and a good night’s sleep the night before. Either way it doesn’t matter. The sloppy passes, bad decisions, and lack of legs in the 3rd were uncharacteristic of this team, they played like complete garbage but they still came away with 2 points and those 2 points are all that matter.

      • mightymikeD

        exactly.. and last year, we lose that game. says a lot about the “Will To Win” that this year’s Hawks are showing

    • cliffkoroll

      Things even out: 4 points over the past 3 games (all ‘ties’ that went to shootouts) sounds about right. By my count, the Hawks are still undefeated, inasmuch as no team has beaten them in a game of actual hockey yet.

      • MySpoonIsTooBig

        It does seem to even out, doesn’t it? The ‘Hawks outplayed both Minnesota and Vancouver and deserved the second point against 1 if not both of them. Conversely, the ‘Hawks were BADLY outplayed by Calgary and likely did not deserve any points yet walked away with 2.

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    Pseudo tin foil hat time…. Yeah, I know it’s a small sample, I know I’m being pedantic and screaming about the sky falling…. But in my defense, I’m out of Scotch….

    While the PK and Goalie situations remain FAR above preseason expectations, the PP and general scoring malaise has returned. Fatigue? Pressure? Key injuries? Bad Karma? Bad Ice? Bad passing? Too much success leading to overconfidence with folks trying too hard to find that ‘perfect lane?’

    Or did the boys who played in Europe come home with an edge that a short training camp couldn’t wear away, an edge that has been dulled as Q reasserts his system?

    I need to get to the Scotch store today, or take a trip to Edinburgh.

    • TKHO

      Every season the Hawks have a period where they struggle to score. It’s always temporary, but when it comes early in the season it may seem more worrisome than it actually is. I’m not worried, particularly because they’ve had some good looks and faced some pretty solid goaltending.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Bears offense = Hawks PP.

    • Waylon

      I think it’s a simple case of all of their stacked – up games finally coming to the fore. They looked dead – dog tired out there for most of the game in Calgary, no one was skating with any energy or purpose for long stretches.

      • mightymikeD

        this

      • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        very true

      • Z-man19

        To add to that, that was CGY’s 6th game of the season and 5th at home. CGY definitely had the advantage in the fresh department

    • cliffkoroll

      Chico made this point even when the PP was clicking early on: zone entry is terrible. When they win the draw and hold it in, it looks like they move it pretty well, but as soon as the puck is iced- send in the clown shoes.

      • mightymikeD

        as 10thMF mentioned, some of the PP goals have come late in utterly inept performances (Sharpie’s stands out.. I was howling at the Clown Shoes and then he scored..) The zone entry, just like last season, strikes me as the biggest malaise. Attempting the backdoor, Keith hitting shinguards.. they can be fixed later

        • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          re zone entry to both of you … HNIC had a great point about Chicago forwards in 5v5 play, and the freedom of structure Q seems to grant our skill players. It makes it really difficult to defend against due to their unpredictability … but for me, when you get to the PP, it’s ALL about structure, and you can’t wing it. Part of that is that the d is in hyper-sensitive zone coverage, which tends to limit freewheeling a lot better, even a man short.

          It’s just mind-boggling to me, truly, that the coaches don’t impose a more rigid structure for entering the zone, whether it’s a shoot-in or something else. No one knows what’s going to happen rush to rush, and so on a shoot-in, say, we’re not flooding the opposite side to regain the puck … because no one knows if it’s going to be a shoot-in.

          I buy Q’s argument 5v5, that the goals will come because the chances are there. But on the PP, I see no evidence of that,

          • Accipiter

            I agree. The opposing teams PK plugs up the N-zone/blueline and the unpredictability becomes painfully predictable when 4 of our guys are standing still (with 4 more bodies defending, making even less space) while the puck carrier tries to gain the O-zone. This usually results in a turn over or a dump in which is easily retrieved by the D and shot out of the zone.

          • mightymikeD

            agree. but just to refine one of your points slightly: the Forwards can indeed “Wing It” on the PP once, and ONLY once they have gained the Zone.. up until then, yes, it needs to be North Korean

          • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Fair enough, but I’d say winging it works only when you’re really clicking and in control, which on the PP is usually the result of having each player know where the others are, or are going to be. And we’re not clicking right now, obviously.

            The thing is, once we gain possession in the zone we are fairly structured in our plan … Kane or Hossa directing play from the right half-boards, with passes to the goal line or to the right point that try to open seams or shots. When we get there we usually get a chance (the quality of the chance usually depending on the quality of our net presence).

          • Waylon

            That was a real pleasure listening to the CBC announcers, at other times I’ve wanted to scream at them because of their rampant “Canada, eh!” homerism. But I honestly never realized that the Hawks never really had a set PP structure – explains a lot.

    • 10thMountainFire

      In the pre-game against Vancouver, one of the studio dudes on WGN remarked that if you looked at the PP goals this year, most were the result of fortunate circumstances and not necessarily improved play. That disturbs me as well.

    • amontesawesome

      I wouldn’t be too worried about general scoring. Calgary excluded, the Hawks possession numbers had been better over the last few games than the first few.

      The PP I think might warrant a little more concern, though. The Hawks average 46 SF/60 while on 5v4, a number that’s only good for 19th in the league. But, sample size is still really, really small so who knows.

  • TKHO

    Henrik looks like he’s only got one arm in that picture.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

      It’s just a flesh wound.

      • DesertHawk

        I’ll bite your shin guards!!!

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    If you think the Goalie interference call that benefited Crawford last week was a bad call, take a look at this one, courtesy of Yahoo Sports.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/senators-game-tying-goal-called-off-silfverberg-goalie-232534773–nhl.html

    • Paul the Fossil

      Wow, that’s horrendous.

    • MySpoonIsTooBig

      If THAT was a legit penalty, then the “interference” on Crawford warranted a suspension…

    • DesertHawk

      That is really terrible. SN: I kinda like the name Silfverberg.

  • Paul the Fossil

    Take a look at the NHL leaderboard this morning: Oduya is now tied for first in the _league_ in plus-minus. Of course part of that is that he doesn’t play against top lines, but plus-9 in 9 games is very impressive regardless.

    Between Oduya’s play and Leddy’s development and Hammer’s re-found calmness this should be the best that we’ve felt about a Hawk D corps top to bottom in many moons.

    • 10thMountainFire

      I think what you just posted is one of a number of reasons for Crow’s outstanding production thus far. The blue line is improved, top-to-bottom… and that, coupled with Crow’s obvious improved positioning, is a recipe for success. Especially on the PK.

  • 10thMountainFire

    The Super Bowl needed more hockey in it.

    • Accipiter

      and more power failures.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Like, for example… when Ray Lewis speaks.

        • MySpoonIsTooBig

          Or when Ray Lewis starts feeling a little stabby

          • 10thMountainFire

            No, it’s ok. He has the Bible now.

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            Ray Lewis – the first person to ever attempt to stab someone with a bible

          • 10thMountainFire

            No… I’m sure it has been done before.

          • MySpoonIsTooBig

            Ray Lewis – the most recent person to attempt to stab someone with a bible

          • Waylon

            Stabby, like with deer antlers.

          • Joe Banks

            He’s a ruttin’ Buck…

    • cliffkoroll

      Not a fan of the halftime show…until last night. Wowza!

  • Skags

    I’ve been impressed with Q so far. He’s been sticking with the same lines throughout. Sure, after a PP or PK they get a little jumbled. but he’s been really patient so far and kept everyone playing together. Bollys injury notwithstanding.

    It’s good to see after a couple years of “Will it blend?” Hoping it pays off.

    • justforkicks

      tbh though, this is the first time i’ve wished for a little bit of a blender as a result though as well. idk how long the 2nd line can pretty much be a 1 man show for.

    • BeverlyBrewmaster

      For some reason the line-juggling has never gotten me as worked up as it probably should, but my main reason to sing the praises of Coach Q this season has been his willingness to roll all three defensive pairings which means less icetime for 7 and 2. That being said, I’m still forced to balance that against his inexplicable decision to dree Bollig over Mayers night after night.

      • Accipiter

        I don’t think Q should dress either Bollig or Mayers, but since those are choices he gives himself, I prefer he dress the player that can skate at the same speed as the rest of the league even though Mayers can win a draw when called upon.

        • Z-man19

          I agree, who you bringing up?

      • Waylon

        Last season I felt that Mayers was well worth starting over Bollig – but based on what I’ve seen so far from both players, Mayer’s age looks like it’s suddenly caught up to him. Lead foot doesn’t begin to describe his skating ability at this point in his career.

  • mightymikeD

    Damn, man.. the rest of this month is downright scary.. the Hawks play 11 games (although have that nice 7 game homestand) which will include all 3 of our San Jose meetings for the Reg season, the Nucks again and their first tilt at last year’s bogeymen, Nashville. Got the Ducks, Kings and Blues (twice) in there too. I know, in a shortened season, there’s not much of a respite at any stage but ,to paraphrase Eliot “February is the cruellest month”
    (insert your own Waste Land/St Louis jokes here)

    • Accipiter

      The plus side to the schedule is that there is time to rest between most of the games until the end of the month ( in the last week we play 2 back to backs going into March 1st).

    • The Doctor

      Goalies we’re facing this month: Niemi 3 times, Smith, Luongo, Quick, Rinne, and Halak/Elliot. Then there’s also Dubnyk and Mason/Bobrovsky but they shouldn’t be a problem.

      • Accipiter

        No Schneider ?

        • mightymikeD

          drink

          • Joe Banks

            Drink!

      • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        Dubnyk’s playing great. I’d actually rather face Quick and Smith right now, by a long shot. Especially Quick. Both are taking a strange stretch of time to hit stride.

        • The Doctor

          I can see Quick reverting to form, but I believe last year was the kind of year you won’t see Smith repeat again. I don’t believe he’s as good as his numbers last season.

      • Joe Banks

        Halak is on IR I think…

  • 2883

    I don’t have a link to share perhaps.. but here is something everyone should watch regarding the future of the Hawks. (Teuvo).

    Check out this snipe by Teravainen from a few nights ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q7VuzEj-h48#t=165s (Warning, it is in Finnish.. but you don’t need the announcing to witness teh snipe.) (Warning #2: the beginning fo the highlight with Teravainen’s snipe begins at 2:45, I tried to copy an embedded URL with the current time but if it doesn’t work, skip to 2:45).

    • Accipiter

      Nice goal. (Started at the 2:45 mark for me)

    • DesertHawk

      Worked for me too. I really hate the Euro league jerseys. Although I wouldn’t mind having one, just for obnoxiousness sake.

  • raditzzzz

    yo, sam. not sure if you are aware, but i am getting the following error trying to create a new topic in the forum:

    Fatal error: Call to a member function add() on a non-object in /home/thecommittee/www/www/wp-content/plugins/spam-destroyer/index.php on line 229

    let me know if you think this is fixed, and i will try to repost my inaugural forum shot.

    • mightymikeD

      are you trying to post pictures? I get the same while attempting it.. I believe it’s because the [img] is currently disabled, the reason why my recent efforts at “comedy” have been links rather than posts. I believe it’s being looked into.

      • raditzzzz

        hmmm i actually only posted youtube links in it, just wholesale cut and paste from the address bar. would’ve attempted pictures, but didn’t see an insert function, so i nixed that.

        should make for good convo fodder when it gets posted. all about goalie rebound control. and i know how much we all like that topic.

        • DesertHawk

          Big fan of your goalie posts, so I’ll be looking forward to it.

          • raditzzzz

            thanks! i just gave it another shot, and no go. i have this feeling in the back of my head that i am doing something noobish. i just straight typed out my post into the new thread box, gave it a title and a tag and i keep getting the same error. even tried it without the links and got the same thing.

          • mightymikeD

            which tags are you using?

          • raditzzzz

            not using any, just straight wrote into the “visual” box and tried to post. tags i was referring to were the topic tags. ive tried it with them, without them, with youtube links in the body and without. nothings worked. any suggestions?

          • mightymikeD

            Like I said: it seems that the HTML tags to embed photos or videos are not (currently) enabled.. if you look at that wee box of HTML tags you’ll see that the strike through, blockquote and bold (strong) tags are there but no (for pictures) or to allow videos from youtube etc.. I would guess it’s an anti-spam measure.
            So no way around it.. I have contacted the ToS about it and I believe it’s under review

    • DesertHawk

      I was just wondering if you’d made the transition.

      • raditzzzz

        yep, im around. finally got the itch to try another goalie thread.

  • http://twitter.com/neo873 Neo

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?db=201213&sit=5v5close&type=corsi&teamid=7&pos=skaters&minutes=10&disp=1

    Interesting graph on the Hawks, this tries to remove
    opponent and teammate performances. A number of interesting results:

    For “players not starting the season in game shape due to
    the lockout,” I am picking Bolland and Seabrook.

    Kruger and Frolik’s negative plus minus might have more to
    do with their low PDO (luck) numbers than their overall performance.

    Leddy’s numbers are really being influenced by his partners.

    Hawks have done everything they can to put Stalberg in the
    best position to succeed. He is getting mostly offensive zone starts against the lowest competition. While he is a plus in plus minus that line simply isn’t producing enough to warrant those shifts. Especially when it comes at the expense of the “Patricks.”

    • amontesawesome

      I’m curious about the zone start data you mentioned. If I’m understanding it correctly, it doesn’t seem to jive with Behind the Net. According to BTN Stahlberg is only getting offensive zone starts 49% of the time compared to appx 58 and 55 for the Patricks.

      • http://twitter.com/neo873 Neo

        I was using 5o5 close numbers which look at the games when the teams are within a goal of each other.

        But yes, Stalberg’s offensive zone draws have dropped once Bolland got hurt. And maybe because that line just wasn’t scoring enough to justify those offensive advantages.

  • mightymikeD

    for those who do the Twitter.. the incomparably wonderful @SHorcov is trolling the Nucks in an hilarious fashion