• Joe DeTolve

    If my teammate was boarded with his head down I would jump off the bench too…Oh I went ape shit when Shaw did that.

    • laaarmer

      I still say Bollig should have jumped off to get Hansen. He’s going to sit anyway.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

        Yes, but he won’t get paid sitting suspended.

        • laaarmer

          Hossa would have payed him. Hossa carries that in his money belt during the game.

    • DesertHawk

      And Shaw should probably sit for that hit too.

  • raditzzzz

    hey, can we post gifs on this thing? because this is how i feel as the hawks keep rollin:

    https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4535038464/h18D2E94F/

    • ahnfire

      deleted your double-post for you. :)

      O/T: disqus is still broken isn’t it? le sigh.

      • raditzzzz

        thanks!

    • justforkicks

      you have to upload it like you’d do a regular pic, don’t you?

      • raditzzzz

        just checked their site, gif pics are supported, but not animations.

        • justforkicks

          well that seems kind of ridiculous. oh well. links are still good

  • raditzzzz

    hey can we post gifs on this thing? because this is how i feel as the hawks keep rollin:

    https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4535038464/h18D2E94F/

    • raditzzzz

      double posted, pls delete!

  • Paul the Fossil

    Ever wonder what it would look like if Kane put Shaw up on his shoulders and then did the spin-o-rama to get down deep and score?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P7OmPAidBJc

    • birdhead

      That really is as beautiful as everyone on Twitter was saying it was. Wow.

    • DesertHawk

      OK that was awesome.

    • Accipiter

      Chara doesn’t even crack a smile. Just another day at the office.

  • cliffkoroll

    This is what I’m talkin’ about. From Verdi’s piece:

    “They’re deep and they play at a tremendous pace, which is the way our game is now—better than ever, I believe,” said Hall of Famer John Davidson, president of hockey operations for the Blue Jackets. “Their best players are the hardest workers, they are extremely well-coached, and the fans here have gotten to see some of their stars grow up before their eyes. Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Duncan Keith…they came up through the system to be Blackhawks. And obviously, they’ve drafted well.”

  • cliffkoroll

    And this:

    Davidson doesn’t pay much attention to a theory that the Blackhawks aren’t tough enough.

    “It’s a fast game, faster than ever, but still very physical,” Davidson went on. “But I don’t see them getting pushed around. They have good size. They have some big guys. Looking at their record, I’d say they’re doing OK, don’t you think?”

    I’m a card-carrying meatball and a chronic whiner about the Hawks getting pushed around, and the playoffs are gonna be more physical, and the meathead contingent out East (let alone PHX, LAK, STL, VAN) is already slobbering about a chance to show the Hawks some ‘real’ hockey if it comes to that, but if I’m the Hawks management, I put all my efforts into ensuring that the NHL doesn’t backslide on the ‘tighter whistles’ that have opened the game up again this year and given fans such magnificent hockey- an environment that favors the Hawks, natch.

    Finally, it interesting that tonight the Hawks see one of the few teams in the league that dares to play the Hawks’ style, and actually crammed it up the Indiannostrils a couple times last year. More fun on the way- stay tuned!

    • JesusMarianHossa

      Brother Cliff is leading a sermon this morning. I’ll be the Jake Blue to your James Brown this AM.

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    If Clowe gets hit that hard, perhaps Shaw should sit a game for his stoopid hit. There, I said it, and that’s the difference between us and Nucks fans.

    • laaarmer

      Maybe Wiz payed him back for it last night, and somebody will pay Wiz back for it in his next game. Screw Shanahan and his BS.

    • justforkicks

      while i wouldn’t mind if shaw sat because it was a bad hit, if they deem clowe jumped off the bench, those hits are essentially mandatory.

  • http://twitter.com/neo873 Neo
    • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      Good article. The most salient part, for me, is the comparison between the blocked shots of the Rangers vs. the Kings and Devils last year. Really interesting, and indicative of how stats are misued even by people who know a lot about the game. You knew you were never far from a comment on blocked shots when someone was talking about the Rangers’ success last year, as though there wasn’t anything broader going on, or as though all teams should be emulating that for success.

      I always try (try!) to boil adv stats down to what they might tell us about a 7-game series. For example, a 7-game series against a very physical team. 7 games against a very good team that is also physical will tell you different things than a month’s stretch of a regular season. Puck possession will be significantly diminished against any very good team, at which point physicality might play a far greater role (if your d-men are turning and chasing in their own zone, and getting pummeled, well that takes its toll by game 5/6/7.

      The other thing is that the Leafs ARE much improved. The writer compares their first-half last year to this year and concludes they’re no better. But you look at how they finished the year last year, and look at it through the lens of the more structured and responsible style they play under Carlyle … they’re a better team, and one that will be less susceptible to a second half flame out imo. But his other point is that people attribute any change to being more physical, which I do think is bogus.

      A last point … not all teams need the same ingredients for success. The Leafs don’t have the same top-end talent of the Hawks and so have to rely on other aspects of the game to succeed. Same with Nashville–goaltending and gumming up. Same with Philly, who requires their goalie also be an astronaut.

      • Paul the Fossil

        The most important point is to approach all statistics skeptically. Which does not mean “suspiciously” or “dubiously” but rather from a place of show-me-how-this-is-meaningful neutrality. As the saying goes, “Skepticism is a process not a position.”

        The hits statistic in particular fails even a cursory consideration for relevance both for the reason that the juniors coach tweeted about [there isn't any relationship between which NHL teams are credited with the most hits and which NHL teams win the most], and also because there is obviously no consistency in how it is being credited [as that blog post points out; it's like errors in MLB].

        This leaves us with two possibilities, either:
        (a) playing the body well has nothing to do with winning NHL hockey games, or
        (b) the hits statistic as currently compiled by the NHL is nonsense.

        Nobody who’s ever played or coached the game at any level, myself included, is going to buy (a). So that leaves us with (b).

        • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          Absolutely, I agree wholeheartedly with the skepticism part, and I’d add that the most important aspect of your “b” option is the “as currently compiled” part. Advanced stats are crucial to understanding today’s game, and it boggles my mind how there can be so much discrepancy in the compiling of data … hits, faceoff wins, giveaways, takeaways, etc., etc.

          Fuck Gillis and Vigneault, but there’s no question they did a lot for adv stats league-wide in determining how best to take advantage of skill sets in the context of zone starts. i submitted a question on “Ask the GM” or whatever on the Hawks site about adv stats, wondering if they have a dedicated position for it and what exactly that person does. I don’t expect it to be answered, but I’m curious!

          • ahnfire

            I know in the Feb issue of Blackhawks Magazine, they had a small feature called “Stat Geek” that talked a bit about adv stats. I don’t know if they have a dedicated position for it, but it’s not a foreign concept to them.

            You can see it here: http://fi.zinio.com/page/?issue=416211183&pg=7&categoryId=cat1960028

          • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Thanks!

          • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            Hey, that’s Emerald! She was interning for the Hawks for a while in marketing or something, ya? Isn’t that why she had to dwindle her contributions at the old site? Anyway. There she is again.

          • ahnfire

            Yes & yes. :D So proud of her!

      • Z-man19

        You want to see/hear some crazy Philly stats, check out Giroux’s FO’s numbers. He’s taken 504 draws, the next closest Flyer has 270. Apparently coach Peter thinks FO”s have some significance. Giroux wins 55% of his draws, only one other Flyer is over 45%.

        • amontesawesome

          Or maybe Coach Peter thinks having his best player on the ice as much as possible has some significance.

          • laaarmer

            This is exactly it. He is the best player because one of the things he does is WIN FUCKING FACEOFFS more often than he loses them.

        • http://twitter.com/neo873 Neo

          THE whole concept about “Moneyball” is to use statistics to exploit inaccurate opinions of significance. Nobody using stats states Faceoffs are NOT significant. What stats people state are that they are NOT as significant as most people perceive.

          • Z-man19

            I get the concept and I don’t think I’ve ever stated that player A is better than player B because A is better at the dot. The whole discussion has come up because Bolland isn’t great at the dot. Most would like it if he were better. Some have brought up the fact that being good at the dot isn’t that important. I see the point, however, Bolland is centering 88-10 and they need the puck. They need someone to go get it for them. In this case, Bolland needs to get them the puck. One way he can do that is at the dot. Thus, it would be nice if Bolly was better at the dot even if it only means he wins 1-2 draws more per game.

            This significance of a FO boils down to this, 12 seconds to go in the game, the hawks are down 1 and have a FO in their O zone. Who is taking that FO? Your answer is Toews unless he’s lying dead somewhere behind the bench. Does every player on the hawks have to be as good as 19 at the dot? No, but it sure would be nice, especially if he’s centering for two guys that are offensive wizards but have trouble getting the puck if the other team has it.

    • laaarmer

      I like this until he starts talking about some other kind of stats. So, I stopped reading. Hard to complain about statistics not meaning that much and then go on to say that your stats do mean something and are better.

      The advance stats do tell us something. They are just not as applicable to the actual game being played as we think they are. The best example of this is faceoff%. If it doesn’t matter, why do we have a faceoff? Because it does matter during the game that is being played and more specifically, to that time during the game. It matters.

      Anyway, the stats are fun for us to look at, and they tell us a lot of things. One thing for sure the statistics tell us is that the Hawks cannot be 15-0-3 and they will lose the next 5-6 games. Don’t bother watching, it’s all downhill from here.

      • zacked

        I’m pretty sure people who believe in advanced stats understand the gambler’s fallacy.

        • laaarmer

          What % believe?

          • http://twitter.com/neo873 Neo

            Isn’t making strawmen arguments on the Internet fun? “Regression TOWARDS the mean” is the statistical concept. You keep trying to mock the laymen’s misnomer of “regression TO the mean.”

          • laaarmer

            Semantics man.

            I’m not mocking the idea/concept. I’m mocking the people/you who constantly want to throw these types of numbers around like it WILL happen. It WILL predict something. How will the game tonight turn out? Nobody fucking knows. There a good chance the hawks will lose. They may win too. They have been winning lately. I don’t know so I am going to watch. My thoughts are that it is a ridiculous thing to say faceoffs don’t matter. Shot quality doesn’t matter. It’s a fucking joke as far as I’m concerned. Does that mean I don’t see the numbers? No, I understand 100% what is being talked about. The game is not determined by the numbers that we add up and divide. So, I will mock you.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

            You and your crazy superheroes.

  • justforkicks

    NHLbyMatty
    Khabibulin off ice first at morning skate so looks like he starts vs hawks

    • justforkicks

      no word on bolly yet as far as i can see

  • Accipiter
  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    Not that they have a vote, but Quebec will not like the proposed realignment that has two eight team conferences in the east and two seven team conference in the west, meaning the NHL is damned if it will let the Yotes move to Quebec, and plans expansion west of Chicago, again shutting out Quebec. Well, WC, there’s always the Blue Jackets.