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Lick And A Promise: Bruins 1 – Hawks 3 (Hawks lead 3-2)

I remember this from three years ago.

I remember when they flash that “1″ all around the U.C. I remember the chills you get when you see it. Because though we spend most of our days dreaming about the Hawks winning The Chalice, and though that thought infuriates our bosses or significant others or whoever else because you are pretty much useless in any other way when thinking about it, when you see that “1″, it becomes all too real. It’s right there. You feel like you can touch it. It’s not just theory any more. It’s like when you first step into that girl’s/guy’s apartment that you’ve been chasing for so long. It’s not just a dream or a wish. There’s so little to execute now to have what you dared not speak of before. IT COULD REALLY HAPPEN AND OH MY GOD JUST BREATHE AND ALL I HAVE TO DO IS NOT CRIMINALLY FUCK UP AND….

And yet…there’s still so far to go.

-There’s no point in going much farther without discussing the main storylines coming out of this one, and that’s the injuries to what may be the two best two-way players in the game. Patrice Bergeron didn’t make it out of the 2nd period, and Jonathan Toews wasn’t seen in the 3rd except on the bench as a decoy. Bergeron’s injury is the more nebulous, because he wasn’t hit or felled in any way and still ended up in the hospital. That’s kind of scary. It’s easy to identify Toews’s problem, a hit from Boychuk that in the regular season would likely draw a suspension. But if it does now I’d shit a chicken. Boychuk’s hands were high, it was from behind, it was to the head….seems all the parameters are there. But don’t sit on a hot stove waiting for punishment.

While you want to be tempted to say if neither make the bell on Monday it’s a push, the B’s still have Krejci, Peverley, Kelly, and Paille and Seguin can both play center. The Hawks don’t have that depth down the middle. But then again, if Toews can walk you feel like they’d have to chain him in the hotel to keep him from playing. No one knows.

-On to the fabulous defensive effort from the Hawks. Without their only plus-faceoff guy, they still won a majority of the draws. Protecting the slimmest of leads, the Bruins only had a few looks here and there and the Hawks mostly swallowed up what lanes were there. Sure, there were some scrambles that made the execs at Alka-Seltzer happy, but not consecutive glorious saves from Crow because he didn’t have to. Some of this was driven by Bergeron’s absence, as only Krejci’s line really sustained any pressure. But the Hawks locked it down, which they really haven’t been able to do all series. They kept Boston mainly to the outside and best of all they closed down the points furiously, which they did not do in Game 4.

-Chara was better tonight, but he still was on the ice for both Hawks goals that came with Rask in net. The Hawks finally got the kind of bounce the B’s did in Game 4 when Oduya’s shot shredded Seidendberg’s stick and then found its way to Kane, but that was hardly the first chance that line created. Chara couldn’t get to Bickell either for his first attempt or his ring around the net leading to Kane’s second. And now he doesn’t get the extra day of rest.

-Speaking of Chara, I think it’s utterly fucking hilarious that he gets knocked on his ass by Bickell and then Lucic feels the need to run to his aid. CHARA’S 8 FEET TALL!!!

-The B’s definitely backed off their 3rd forward in on the forecheck to keep the Hawks from hitting the neutral zone with such speed. However, when the Hawks had good puck support and had precision with their passes, they still hit the B’s blue line with speed and created problems. I’m not sure there’s anything the B’s can do about it.

-Is Brad Marchand playing in this series?

-The CORSI’s say Brandon Saad was a -1. And yet I still feel like he was absolutely everywhere tonight.

-DAT PATRICK KANE HE DON’T LIKE TO DO TO DA NET AND DATS WHY DEY SHOULD TRADE HIM FOR PICKS SO WE CAN RE-SIGN DAT BICKEL-MAN!!! Don’t look now, but Kaner is in the running for the Conn Smythe.

-Hey, Nick Leddy almost made it to seven minutes!

There’s only one natural one left…but I doubt the Hawks will make it easy.

 

  • Dumpnchase55

    Ahh the “fuck everyone” Kane mode. Sure is fun.

  • Jeff Lebowski

    This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder’s head. Fortunately, I’m adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber.

    • Accipiter

      You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug, especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye.

      • Killion

        We’re really all over the place with references here folks. Let’s rein it in a bit.

        • Accipiter

          Edited for congruency.

          • Killion

            Well done

    • Nagelbett

      What is that, yoga?

  • TheRealBBOX

    Sheeeeeeeeit, Captain Marvel was trying to get back in to THIS game according to the CBC broadcast. He’d have to be dead to be kept out of a Cup clincher, and even then I imagine he’d just reanimate himself Frankenstein-style and lurch up and down the ice. Maybe if he’s drawn and quartered he doesn’t suit up on Monday. Maybe.

    Bergeron’s spleen seems to be the culprit based on the whispers showing up on Twitter, if that’s the case, he won’t be dressing up until next season. Good for the Blackhawks’ chances, I suppose, but I never like seeing a guy hurt.

    Everything else here is dead on. Sky point for the title too. Is it Monday yet?

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      If the medics decide that Toews Can Not Play, would YOU want to be the one to tell him?

    • ballyb11

      I think it’s a concussion. If it is and the Hawks follow the rules, then it’s not Toews decision to make. And I agree.

      Google and read about John Mackey of the Baltimore Colts.

      • TheRealBBOX

        Do you think they examined Toews between periods then? I just don’t remember him not being on the bench. It’s a weird situation because Toews was reported to be in the locker room following the game, looking good, talking with teammates. I know that doesn’t prove dick about if it is or is not a concussion, but evidently players who have been diagnosed with a concussion are typically ghosts after the game. I guess we’ll find out Monday.

        I hope it’s not a concussion, not just for the short-term benefits but because he’s a good kid and I’d hate to see his long-term future severely compromised by another concussion. I was a bit exuberant last night when posting, so I’ll apologize for downplaying the potential concussion. I just hope our worst fears on the subject aren’t realized.

      • Waylon

        We’ll never know the real story until after the playoffs, but for now I’m going to give Q all the praise in the world for resisting the temptation to put his captain back in during a very critical juncture in a playoff game.

  • hauss

    No depth in the middle but…#TWTW

  • 1benmenno

    Sam: I appreciate the analogy of the first paragraph. But . . . there’s a lot left to execute.

    • 1benmenno

      which is what you address later. Never mind, as Rosanne Rosannadanna would say

      • Z-man19

        You are old

        • 1benmenno

          And you, sir, are sober.

          • Z-man19

            And old

          • 1benmenno

            Sober and old. So sad. Here, have some prison wine.

      • pompoon

        Wait…wasn’t it Emily Litella who said “never mind!” ?

        (yes I have watched a lot of 70s SNL)

        • 1benmenno

          I think you’re right.

  • craig kowalski

    Aerosmith title?!?! Woot! Great wrap up.

  • QCBlackhawk

    Was at a wedding reception tonight without a fucking TV. Was checking a smartphone for the score like a crack-addict looking for his fix. Straight up bailed to my car to listen to 720 for the last 5 mins with some other big fans and yelled my ass off at the empty netter. So close, folks…

    One.

  • Eddie_The_Eagle50

    The power play is still a Chinese fire drill but I guess that doesn’t matter when they can dominate at 5 on 5. Also, is it just me or was that a Davey Fucking Bolland sighting tonight? ONE more win boys! Lets bring the big shiny thing back to chitown!

    • Ronnie’s Mustache

      It was just you. Bolland was a no-show.

  • Jeff Lebowski

    It’s…beautiful

    http://i.imgur.com/brVBMdS.jpg

    • wardrums

      that photo sent a shiver down my spine
      1

    • Waylon

      If possible, if the Hawks take this thing, I’d love to see this photo juxtaposed with another photo, the one of Lucic breaking his stick across the goal post after the game ended. That would be all kinds of awesome.

    • Kevin

      A classic Rocky Balboa pose.

      • Ranjan

        Nice!

  • Ronnie’s Mustache

    I love when Kane gets a bug up his ass! Blasting slappers, running guys into the net, and as always, making it look like he’s playing the game in the Matrix.

    Keith and Biscuit had a fucking rock-solid game. I was a bit worried after Keith’s shaky passing in game 4 (none of which bit him in the ass). But tonight he looked like he had a mission. His 27+ TOI tonight was a thing of beauty, discipline, and near genius! He was Crows glove!

    Johnny O. and Hammer played balls out too. Gotta love Oduya sniping with what looked like Al Macinnis-like velocity.

    The Toews and Hossa injuries make me a bit nervous. It’s going to be tough w/o those guys…especially if OT is required.

  • AirTrafficAJ

    Hooooo boy. I’d forgotten this feeling. Absolute panic melded with hope and joy. It’s gonna be an insanely long 36 hours.

    • Why

      Please only be 36 hours.

  • Husker Hawk Fan

    We’ve stole the heart attack paddle container from our church and installed it in our man cave. Played with it a bit on our dog (who is now so hyper we think she’s on crack) but I think our tickers (my wife’s included) can only take one more game in this series. Go Blackhawks! Wrap it up Monday night please!

  • duncans peace pipe

    1 more win.

  • Preacher

    The Bruins will make some personnel moves and Bergeron will become a rallying cry for them. But if the Hawks play THEIR game, will anything Boston does matter? Not being overly confident here, but I thought the Hawks turned a corner in game 4. And they haven’t looked back.
    1. GO HAWKS!!!

  • Accipiter

    I think it was Rozsival who got a pretty big piece of Bergeron in the 1st period.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      Don Cherry picked out a hit from Game 4 that he thinks might have been the initial cause, and was saying he thinks it’s the ribs … showed a couple “candid” shots and it definitely does look like it might be. It looked like the guy could barely breathe on the bench.

      • Accipiter

        Wasn’t the G4 hit (the one he showed), a hit that made it look like a shoulder injury ?

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          The shoulder took the brunt of it, definitely, but his upper body was just sort of squeezed. He was talking about how difficult it looked for Bergeron to breathe, ho he had to straighten out his body on the bench to do so, and then added in his experience that always meant a rib/s injury.

          • Accipiter

            Yeah, the way his body was talking definitely suggests something of that nature.

      • Stockroom Snail

        The look on his face when he was sitting on the bench…I mean he looked like a kid forced to watch his/her puppy get kicked. It was sad, honestly.

  • wardrums

    The B’s are a bunch of filthy hacks. Shaw is constantly getting crosschecked in the face. If Bychuk is not suspended for that cheap shot, it’s open season on the NHL stars.
    Raffi Torres would probably be suspended for 20 games for that it. Bot, “becuase it’s the Cup” Buychuk can skate away with impunity? Bullshit. Wasn’t he the guy who tried to injure Kruger with a hit from behind last night?

    • Accipiter

      Seidenberg hit Kruger.

  • krome

    I watched that one from Boston Pizza in White Horse Yukon on a wall sized jumbotron. ..with a dozen plus Hawks fans. First one I’ve seen since game 1 (except 30 seconds of game 3 when I got some signal near Denali in Alaska). I hope to be able to see the rest.

  • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

    I feel weird saying this, but I thought the hit on Toews was fine. First, he’s cutting to the middle in the most dangerous part of the ice … a hit is coming about 99% of the time. And it looks to me like initial contact is with Toews’s shoulder, and the gloves ride up to his noggin. Crappy, but I don’t think it’s a suspension.

    • Preacher

      The ruling will be: “No penalty was called on the ice and we concur with on-ice officials that the head was not the principal point of contact. And, uh, playoffs ya know.”
      And you ARE weird, Chico.

      • Accipiter

        He intended to blow the whistle, so therefore the play is not under review because it never happened.

        • Bullitt315

          Winner.

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        I only FEEL weird.

    • putmeinthemadhouse

      i didnt have a huge issue with it either…a combination of how the play developed and toews body position just made it not so bad for me. Didnt seem like the head was primary contact anyways, boychuck kind of slid up his shoulder/clavicle and into the neck

    • Fleshrifle

      My first reaction was a charging call and a suspension but it seemed like a good ‘ol hockey-play. In slow-mo it was a hit to the shoulder, Toews was coming down and the contact slid into his head. I think in the regular season that gets a call and the review afterwards goes on Boychuk’s permanent record (it sits below the ‘eats paste and pretends he’s a horse’ comment). Lots of penalties could have gone either way. Cross checks (all over Shaw’s face), high sticks (Kane) and even a potential unsportsmanlike on Hossa (it was great watching Horton’s reactions on the bench).

    • Say what again

      I would agree if he had the puck, but it was gone.

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Fine by me if he keeps his hands down. Hands were up.

    • ballyb11

      The problem contact was Chara’s intentional elbow on Toews in the corner w/ Toews on the ice. Vicious.

    • Why

      For what it’s worth, I’m right with you. When I think through it, I’d want Seabrook to try and make the same play if Krecji tried that move. And I completely agree with how shitty it is.

    • cliffkoroll

      Yup

    • jacquescloutier

      right arm was fine, left arm went straight to toews’ head. much easier to see from the reverse angle [which i'm not sure was shown on the nbc telecast]. definitely a penalty; should’ve been a suspension.

    • Kevin

      I disagree. If hits like that are allowed, then we will see more players who will have serious brain damage in their latter years long after they have retired. The NFL is a good barometer on this.

      I can’t remember teams taking so many cheap shots to super star players 8 to 9 years ago. I remember Scott Stevens taking out Eric Lindross a long time ago, but that was really rare to see. Now, every big game you see star players getting hit by cheap shots.

      • GhostofProbert

        Does that neatly coincide with end of the enforcer era? But nobody wants fights in the NHL b/c it is a skilled game right?

  • Daze55

    Ahhh so hungover. One more win boys, bring the cup home.

  • Accipiter

    88 is the 1st player since Joe Sakic to have 9G (or more) in 3 different playoffs.

    That’s some pretty good company.

    • Fleshrifle

      Great stat. Where did you find that one?

      • Accipiter

        Watching a TSN show called ‘The Reporters’.

        • Fleshrifle

          I gotta get over to that site. Thanks.

        • Z-man19

          ESPN’s version sucks, shocking I know

          • Fleshrifle

            I give the woman at Grantland props for showing some passion (if not lots of knowledge) about hockey. LeBrun and what’s his face would be nice color analysts somewhere in the AHL. But overall, they suck. Excluding Scott Powers. He asks those tough questions.

          • DJ

            Katie Baker, the Deadspin refugee.

          • yinkadoubledare

            And in addition to her they have the Down Goes Brown guy, who has had some hilarious stuff over the last few years. The discipline flowcharts are still hilarious.

          • Paul the Fossil

            I love Grantland, it’s the best paid sportswriting anywhere.

    • Stockroom Snail

      I’ve said it before, and I plan on saying it again in future playoffs; Patrick Kane = 181 pounds of huevos.

      • bizarrohairhelmet

        mmmm…huevos rancheras

        • Stockroom Snail

          That’s right, wrap a fried 88 in a tortilla and smother him in salsa.

          • VanDorp’sMullet

            Black magic salsa.

        • chichicagochi

          rancheros*

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            you sing how you want to your eggs and I will sing to mine as I wish…

      • lizmcneill

        have you seen a picture of him sans gear lately? If he weighs more than 170 right now I’d be surprised.

        • Stockroom Snail

          Looks all of 181 to me.

    • Why

      That’s a fun stat to look at. Next fun fact, Kane is 24. Sakic was born in 1969 and had his first nine goal playoff run in 1996.

    • 1benmenno

      Who would downboat this? Must be a joke.

      • Accipiter

        Mike Keenan.

        • 1benmenno

          I’ll see your Keenan and raise you a Milbury.

          • Fleshrifle

            15 Milbury’s = 1 Keenan. That’s the current KHL spot rate.

          • 1benmenno

            That’s a load of Huet.

      • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

        badgerdano’d

        • cliffkoroll

          ISWYDT!

  • Z-man19

    Per McKenzie, nothing for Boychuck

    • Waylon

      and that’s why nothing was called on the Frolik trip on Krug at the end – watching the Bruin’s reactions to that non – call was priceless.

      • Ns_Zhivago

        Frolik was playing the puck; no penalty.

        • Accipiter

          NSIS. It should have been a penalty. They missed a lot of calls both ways.

          • Paul the Fossil

            Yea. The Hawks got away with a couple of blindingly-obvious penalties actually, but that’s just par for the NHL’s stupid playoff officiating as is Boychuck getting no supplemental.

          • Ns_Zhivago

            I guess I just don’t know hockey well enough. So, if you don’t mind, watch this replay at 4:19 or 4:20 and tell me why that is a penalty. Frolik plays the puck which just happens to be at the feet of Krug.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a34u8EDfocU&feature=player_embedded

          • Accipiter

            Maybe I don’t know it well enough. Just because you play the puck doesn’t mean tripping is okay. They use that scenario on breakaways when the defender dives to take a swipe at the puck and if he hits the puck before he trips the guy it’s usually is a good play, but this wasn’t a breakaway.

          • Why

            We’re kind of on the same page here but I thought tripping with the feet (or “slew-footing”) was always a penalty in the rulebook, regardless of whether or not the puck was played. As far as the stick goes, if you get puck first, I thought you were fine regardless of the situation.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            slew-footing is from behind and the penalty is automatically match

          • Why

            I was lackadaisical in my phrasing. Slew-Footing is more involved, then just tripping with the feet. We called all of that shit slew footing but that doesn’t make it the rule.

            The NHL just flat out calls it kicking. Rules here: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26338

            Now, that penalty is very severe and “deliberate” usually implies something more than what Frolik did but my understanding and experience watching is that refs usually just split the difference and give the guy a trip.

          • Ns_Zhivago

            Perhaps someone who knows the rule book inside out can tell us. Visually, a Boston player caught the puck, tossed it down and a Chicago player in front of him swiped it away with his stick. If that is penalty, I don’t understand the logic of it.

            Edzo doesn’t usually miss things like that (assuming I’m correct on it not being a penalty) but then again on national broadcasts his first concern is always trying not to sound biased for the Hawks.

          • Why

            Better view of the play is here:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qE0w2858K4

            If you need the rulebook, here’s tripping. I’ve bolded the portion of the rule that deals with the puck:

            57.1 Tripping – A player shall not place the stick, knee, foot, arm, hand or elbow in such a manner that causes his opponent to trip or fall.

            Accidental trips which occur simultaneously with a completed play will not be penalized. Accidental trips occurring simultaneously with or after a stoppage of play will not be penalized.

            If, in the opinion of the referee, a player makes contact with the puck first and subsequently trips the opponent in so doing, no penalty shall be assessed.

            On my understanding of the rule, you can poke the puck away with the stick first and take down the player second, so long as it’s roughly in the same motion. What you can’t do is play the puck first with your stick and trip the guy with your skate after.

            None of this changes the fact that lots of things happen in the playoffs that are not called. This was one of them.

            Source for Rule: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26349

          • Ns_Zhivago

            Thanks for the YT link and rules quote.

            Frolik did get him with the skate at the end after playing the puck. But if this was a missed call, it wouldn’t make the top 10 most egregious missed calls in this series.

            The better team won the game.

          • Accipiter

            That was the point I was trying to make, they let a lot of things slide.

          • Ns_Zhivago

            I know, but I still have in my mind some Bruins fans reactions to the non-call: they would have won about 5-2 if that call was made.

            Frolik played the puck before the trip and considering everything else that has been missed or let go, B fans don’t have a leg to stand on re: this play/non-call.

            We’re on the same page.

          • Why

            You’re bang on. If you want to complain about “obvious” calls in the playoffs and bring out the rule book, you better be prepared to watch a full game and call 50 hooking penalties.

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    And yet…there’s still so far to go.

    This. Paste this on every locker….

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      Good thing Eags isn’t here anymore

      • Accipiter

        Just ’cause Keith Stone ain’t playing don’t mean he stopped eatin’ paste.

  • MySpoonIsTooBig

    Leafs just acquired Bernier from the Kings for 2 players and a pick. Why?

    • Stockroom Snail

      Don’t they already have a good goalie?

      • Accipiter

        Yes, Reimer, but he is still a work in progress. I don’t think it’s a bad move.

        • Why

          It’s the L.A. side that shows how depressed the market is for goalies, particularly restricted ones. I mean, anyone offered a little over 3.3 million fetches a 1st and 3rd round pick under 10.4 of the CBA.

          Doesn’t seem like a bad move on the face of it. In the long term, Reimer goes RFA in a year and you probably get at least a 2nd round pick as compensation if Bernier’s your guy and someone else likes Reimer. I’d suspect you could flip Reimer for more than that, right now. Scrivens seems replaceable.

          In the short term, you get Bernier in net and you’re paying Reimer diddly squat.

          The undercurrent on all these trades now is the cap. Let’s see what Bernier gets paid.

    • CozBullsFan

      That gives them a reliable 1 and 2. Not sure that was what Bernier wanted when he asked to be traded. I’m guessing he was looking for a chance to start. Not sure he’ll find that in TO.

      • Accipiter

        If he plays better than Reimer he will.

        • Why

          If they don’t offer him a chance to start, I’d be shocked if he’d be willing to sign. And if the Leafs didn’t think Bernier had a chance to start, they probably don’t give up a 2nd rounder and Frattin.

    • Stockroom Snail

      It’s also an exchange of backup goalies, which is just odd. I don’t recall too many of those kinds of deals.

      • Why

        I’m not going to pretend I’m great at judging potential goaltenders but calling Bernier for Scrivens an exchange of back up goaltenders would appear to be the equivalent of calling Hossa for Stempniak an exchange of 2nd line wingers. I mean, you’re technically correct and it’s odd if you don’t think about who the players are but it kind of makes sense.

        • putmeinthemadhouse

          XBernieris hardly proven tthat’s not really a fair comparison. Now he is highly touted, but still…

          • Why

            Fair enough. I’m not going to pretend that Hossa and Bernier are equivalents. The value of Bernier and Scrivens is still vastly different, though.

        • birdhead

          Except my impression was that Bernier wanted a legit shot at a starting position, and the Leafs have Reimer.

          • Why

            Bernier tends to get the Rask (before Thomas left) treatment from the scouts and media. The Leafs scouts’ and organization must think that Bernier is a better option going forward than Reimer or, at the very least, Bernier has a strong chance to displace Reimer.

          • birdhead

            I guess so. I think Reimer is underrated and the Leafs are going to struggle to sign Bernier … but I guess it’s not my problem!

          • Why

            I’m terrible at judging goalies. I flat out don’t see most of them enough to form really strong opinions. You could be right.

            It seems grossly unfair given how well Reimer’s played in the opportunities I’ve had to watch him but talent evaluation and budgeting has never been about fairness to the players.

            It will be fun to watch Leafs’ fans and media react to this. They tend to move to the histronics pretty quickly, even by hockey fan standards. That’s not going to be a fun summer for anyone involved.

        • Stockroom Snail

          I wasn’t really judging it on a talent base, just saying goalie exchanges are rare, and backup goalie exchanges have to be rarer. That’s all.

          • Why

            No worries. I’m just always throwing in my two cents. I thought you were exactly correct on the fact it was odd based on certain factors, just wanted to have a discussion on what factors made it less odd.

      • amontesawesome

        Exchanging backup goalies is one thing. But the Maple Leafs gave up a 2nd round pick AND cash too. Unless James Reimer is retiring this is a bizarre move that doesn’t make a lick of sense.

        • Why

          I’m not saying your wrong but I’m not seeing any cash changing hands in the links I’m checking. I’ve got Bernier for Scrivens, Frattin and a 2nd rounder (2014 or 2015).

          • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

            500K is close to about nothing for Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment. It’s like me or you adding a dollar to a tip jar.

            Scrivens is a career backup; Matt Frattin is a third-line winger. Leafs get Bernier, one of the more coveted not-yet starting goalies. For me, this doesn’t throw out Reimer, but it says they think he’s going to top out as a competitive, valuable number 2.

            I’m a Leafs fan, so I’m biased, but I think this is a good trade. Nonis addressing a need, and I don’t think it’s too high a risk after his play this year to imagine Bernier as a capable starter in this league.

          • Why

            I’ve been watching downgoesbrown on twitter and reading CBA. Problem is that $500,000 counts against the cap. It doesn’t make the trade a bad one but you might as well just add $500,000 to Bernier’s contract in first year for cap purposes. L.A. gets the $500,000 bonus.

            The other issue is that a team can basically only retain salary on 3 players per year. I think that’s a non-issue for the Leafs but some people might try and make a big deal of it.

            Edit: Some Leafs fans appear to think you can only be involved in three of these types of trades. That appears to be wrong.

        • Stockroom Snail

          It could set up other deals, I suppose.

    • amontesawesome

      I don’t know why other GMs become so stupid when dealing with the Kings, but it makes me jealous.

    • Joe Banks

      Help me out here, as I am confused. Trade deadline over, season NOT over… how can a trade be made now?
      Isn’t that grossly unfair to Bruins and Hawks?

      • MySpoonIsTooBig

        Yes, but I don’t think anyone is really all that concerned about what is and isn’t fair for the only 2 teams still standing versus the 28 teams who’ve hit the golf course…

  • 1benmenno

    We should move Kane now while his trade value is high

    • Why

      Yep. Sit him out the rest of the playoffs so as to minimize risk of injury.

      • 1benmenno

        Only logical.

      • Fleshrifle

        We may be able to get a 4th rounder. That’s up because of his ability to clear out the crease and knock people into the net in Game 5.

        • Frank Szewczyk

          No, ask for what old man Wirtz wanted, a bag of pucks and money

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            and a decade of tears from millions of fans

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Luongo is still available, right?

    • mad-hatter

      Let him win one more Cup for us, and then trade him. Imagine all the pucks!

  • justforkicks

    its going to be so hard to get through the day on monday

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Nerves building already.

  • cliffkoroll

    Corey Crawfod,

    You are a shutout away from a Conn Smythe trophy, which you can stick up my ass cuz I doubted you the whole way.

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Unless Kaner scores a GWG

      • cliffkoroll

        Nope. SO > GWG. But, I feel a McClure-like “THIS STOPS RIGHT HERE!” comin’ on.

        Not…healthy. Somethin’ about a cart and a horse and a parade route and the Bruins down 3-2.

        I’ve said in the past that jinx theory makes religion look like science, but… I posted Count Floyd ‘ooh, scary’ pictures of Mike Smith last year before the series, and I just knew after Game 1 against Scum that it was gonna be a changin’ of the guard like the Bulls sweeping the Pistons.

        Anyway, I’ma just shut up. Because, clearly, my interactions with tempting fate are driving this whole thing.

        • Fleshrifle

          Dear Hockey Gods,

          Please move along. Nothing to see here.

    • Accipiter

      That trophy isn’t very small and it’s quite pointy ….

      • RyanMcShane

        De gustibus non est disputandum.

        Coca-Cola comes in forty-seven different flavors. We don’t judge.

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    This just in, consider the source before doing back flips.

    Nick Cotsonika @cotsonika
    Quenneville optimistic Toews will play.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      I’m also optimistic, so the number of sources just doubled on this matter.

      • Z-man19

        I trust your opinion Chico

        • Accipiter

          How about not Chico, do you trust his ?

          • Z-man19

            Not Chico is still Chico as far as I’m concerned so yes I trust not Chico

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            Would you trust Not Chico’s Opinion on a date with your daughter

          • Z-man19

            Had I a daughter in Not Chico’s age range, yes I would, you on the other hand….

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            I’m as reputable as anybody else you meet on the internet…

        • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

          All of this was funny … I didn’t see it till now. And incidentally, I LOVE daughters. I mean … grown-up ones.

  • Jim A

    Re: Lucic going after Bickell – That’s the Bruins. They get upset over every hit. In game 4, Kelly was pissed at Sharp for his perfectly clean hit, so Sharp told him to keep his head up. The whole team was unglued about a Frolik hit and were constantly yelling and threatening him all night. They’re St. Louis with talent. That’s another reason the Hawks need to win it.

    • Fleshrifle

      I don’t know about that. It’s the SCF. Boys are doing all they can to win. I wouldn’t equate the Bruins with anything the Blues do. The Bruins hit and hit often but they do it at the right times. The Blues fly around and forget about the puck. I can see their C getting frustrated. But Bickell, Toews, Sharp, Shaw and Bolly haven’t been exactly choirboys.

      • Why

        And the boys shouldn’t be. Scrums happen. Protect your teammates, especially the good ones. That’s true whether those teammates are 5′ 8″ or 6′ 9″.

        Note: Maybe there should be a different rule for 6′ 9″ guys. We haven’t really needed one before.

      • Waylon

        I think the only major difference between the play of the Blues and the Bruins is the level of talent. The Bruins have been taking every Hawk’s player’s head off at every opportunity, and they’ve always been dirty as hell The only reason why anyone rooted for these Gorillas on Ice against VAN was because the Nucks were cheap – ass diving bullshit artists, and whined 24/7 to boot. But you see the same complaints against the Bruins across the hockey sphere – they play an ugly and dangerous game, and almost everyone outside of Boston and the MSM wants them to lose.

      • Black JEM

        Ask Lucic about hitting at the right time on Kane’s game winner. Haha. Boston is playing dirty – all hits on Toews are high because they can’t get him off the puck. Boychuk met the definition due to his hand positions – it should have been called and he should be done. I realize they don’t want to do so.
        Boston has no answer for Toews and Kane – Chara is just too slow no matter how big. And the Krecji line only got going when Toews couldn’t play and the lines got juggled up. They have been invisible since game 1 until the 3rd.
        SO I enjoyed their complaining about Fro’s trip at the end. Haha! Fuck Boston.

        • Accipiter

          Krejci hit Kane (or tried to) after his GWG in G5.

  • cliffkoroll

    Dave, nice game last night.

    “You’ve done some very solid work here…but it isn’t quite lvy league, is it?”

    “Come on man, we`re on a mission. One great rock show can change the world.”

  • Why

    Random speculation based on a lot of assumptions.

    There’s been some talk about Toews not having any control about whether he sits or not and people seem to think that the concussion test is an objective test administered by doctors. Here’s the thing though, the NHL apparently uses modified SCAT2 test or something similar. It’s mentioned in the CBA. This appears to be an example of an SCAT2 test:

    http://www.cces.ca/files/pdfs/SCAT21.pdf

    There appears to be a lot of subjectivity in that thing.

    If we’re talking about morals, the captain (partially) and the doctors (mainly) make the call and if he sits no one with any brains should question that decision. If we’re talking about predictions, I’d be surprised if he didn’t play.

    • 2883

      I bring a little bit of experience to this issue but they take a baseline and they have mechanisms for checking for people either a), tanking the baseline or b). trying to cheat the assessment to get on the ice. I think adrenaline will be his biggest issue. The blood gets pumping and boom he gets a little light headed. I hope he can come back and play but I doubt it.

      • Why

        Interesting to know. I didn’t realize the link didn’t work and fixed it. I’ve never really seen an SCAT2 before and it’s kind of a weird read. Seems like there’s a lot of self-reporting.

        I appreciate people with some knowledge bringing something to the table here. That link gives me no idea how high or low an athlete’s score would have to be in order to play and, even if it did, I wouldn’t know how to rate a lot of those things on the scale, anyway. That test just seems a lot more subjective than I would have thought.

        • 2883

          It’s really hard to tell if someone is really hurt. MRI’s can help but even that isn’t perfect. Concussions and brain science is something that we need to know more about. How to diagnose them more clearly.

          • Why

            And see, that’s the thing. I’m not trying to cast shade on anybody in the sports medical community or trying to insinuate they have any motive other than Toews’ health.

            However, what we would seem to have here is a guy who really wants to get back onto the ice and a test, that even when administered effectively, is pretty difficult to interpret.

          • 2883

            I think if you do it often enough you can get enough of a sense of where a guy is at.

            For instance let’s say he takes it prior to the season. Tries to score low because he wants to always be able to get out on the ice.

            Does the same thing over the course of the year.. throws it..

            then all of a sudden he gets hit with a concussion, the test is administered and he scores just a little less or the same as he did on his baseline. It stands to reason then that the player had intentionally thrown the baseline in order to set it up for something like this. If that were the case I as a medical professional would be resistant to giving him permission

          • Why

            Yeah, certainly you can get a sense and a medical professional is going to know more after the player takes the test. It’s just that it’s ultimately it seems like a yes or no decision and the test seems to leave some room in a “grey area.” Not a shot at the medical guys, it just seems to be the nature of the test.

  • arlingtonrob

    “And yet…there’s still so far to go.”

    Paging Inigo Montoya…I do not think it means what you think it means. I keep hearing this and it drives me nutz. Yeah, yeah, yeah…semantics.

    It seems obvious to me that the end is near for the season and one of 2 teams will be victorious….the penultimate, and perhaps final game is Monday, so that’s not very far to go. We’ll all have an answer very soon.

    Just sayin’…

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      It’s either penultimate or final game. And “far” is a relative term based upon a scale determined by the speaker. I also feel like much still needs to happen before the winner is determined, even though we know it will happen within the next 3 to 4 days, barring something crazy.

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    1.

    1 is a rare thing, a thing to be treasured, a thing to be feared. Few reach it, that is 1’s beauty; fewer still make it beyond, that is the danger of 1.

    1 is not the destination, the goal, or the prize. Everyone knows that, but 1 promises that you have almost reached your goal. 1 whispers that the journey is all but over. After all, you started at 16 and made it all the way to 1. Surely 1 is easy compared to that. 1 lets you take a deep breath, relax, reflect on the road behind you, feel good that you made it this far. 1 tells you what you most desire to hear. 1 is a temptress, a siren, and a damned liar.

    1 is the hill top from which you can see the promised land. 1 fails to mention that for every general that marches triumphantly across, a prophet stays here and dies.

    1 is not easy, not even compared to 16-2. 1 is the poppy field that lies before the Emerald City. 1 is the labyrinth that lies before the Castle of the Goblin King. 1 is the plateau of Gorgoroth that lies between Ciritht Ungol and Mount Doom.

    1 bids you welcome to its house and offers you food and wine. Excuse 1 if it doesn’t join you, it has already dined. 1 is the obvious trap into which you willingly march. The question is, can you escape from 1? It’s harder than 1 would have you believe.

    • 2883

      One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do.

      • Joe Banks

        Two can be as bad as one, it’s the loneliest number since the number one…

        • bizarrohairhelmet

          One is the loneliest number, worse than two

  • Kevin

    I would have to say that I really take Toews for granted. After seeing that last period yesterday it almost gave me a heart attack. You begin to appreciate his play when Toews is no longer there.

    • Accipiter

      Kevin, you’re what the French call les incompetents.

      Linnie McCallister

      • Kevin

        Huh?

        • Accipiter

          Sorry.
          Home Alone reference.
          Disregard.

          • laaarmer

            I understand Ben

        • cliffkoroll

          Hey- omlette du fromage.

  • Why

    Another one to add to the favourite quotes pile that most people have probably already seen. Everyone’s got my back no matter what the media says and it’s so obvious that I’m getting sick of explaining it:

    Crawford was happy to hear his teammates defend him following Game 4, but he didn’t expect any less. Neither he nor the Blackhawks allowed all the negative talk to get to them.

    “Yeah, they’ve had my back the whole time,” Crawford said. “Our team is pretty tight. We’re not going to let anything affect us. And like I said a million times, we just keep playing our game no matter what happens.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blackhawks/post/_/id/4676057/corey-crawford-returns-to-form-in-game-5

  • Accipiter
  • Ranjan

    Please …. one more win. I’m so excited that I can’t even sleep.

    During the regular season next year, let’s make sure that a Blackhawk beats the crap out of Boychuk, and also Torres. I’m getting tired of opposing teams taking liberties on our best players (2013 – Boychuk on Toews; 2012 – Torres on Hossa; 2011 Torres on Seabrook).

    Hawks can do this. Saad had his best game yet (it was the first time that he went into the corners and played better defensively … he’s 211 pounds). Give Stalberg some more ice time (maybe even a little on the power play).

    Go Hawks!!!!!!!

    • laaarmer

      I would love to have Boychuck. He’s a good player. Toews took the puck into a crowd in the slot. He’s going to get hit, he knows it. He did. Seidehofer hit him hard into the boards. Neither of those hits was that dirty. If Bergeron/Krejci took the puck to the same spot and Seabrook or Hjammer didn’t level them, we would be in their ass for not doing so. Good for Toews for taking the puck there and good for Boychuck for not letting him.

  • Preacher

    I’m guessing Toews plays, and it scares me. You KNOW those guys will be targeting his head constantly. They already have, but you know it’s gonna be even more blatant and more dangerous. And if a Hawks player so much as breathes hard on a Bruins player’s head, the refs will call it because they’ll be on the lookout for retribution shots. Still, we need the Captain in there.
    1.
    GO HAWKS!!!

    • Why

      You’re probably right on all counts. There is no team in the world that is better without Toews. If he can’t go or isn’t fully healthy, you can look down the bench and see a bunch of guys who have made a habit of picking each other up. 36-7-5 (Did it then). 4-1 (Again, yes). 4-3 (Yep). 4-1(Of course). 3-2 (So far, so good). One (We’ll see).

    • mad-hatter

      He plays, but if the Hawks get a substantial lead I bet his minutes go down. I do not have a problem with him sitting in the third if he is not necessary (which is a silly idea in and of itself, but I’d like to keep Cap’n for a few more years).

  • cliffkoroll

    So yeah, I watched Game 5 a couple more times (drafting memo to Q with some thoughts this morning).

    Kruger-Bolland-Frolik, man. All three of these guys were doing that ‘spring out from behind shrubberies at center ice pickpocket’ shit, especially during the third period. Rolling against ANY lines, and creating some serious counter-punch chances.

    It’s cool cuz this is so different from the Hawks top-6 puck possession fuck you style. It’s sneaky, and when it’s clicking like it did in Game 5, it keeps teams off balance. Good to see.

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