NHL: Stanley Cup Playoffs-Los Angeles Kings at Chicago Blackhawks

Just Like a Punch in the Teeth: Blackhawks 3, Kings 1

Box Score

Event Summary

Extra Skater

With the finish line coming into view once again, the Blackhawks came out in Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals as though they knew the chance to repeat is no longer 10 steps down the road. They controlled play for the better part of the first period and save for Marian Gaborik getting a couple clean looks in the slot, they did a good job of keeping the Kings to the outside and negating any kind of forecheck with clean breakouts.

After the first period, it was 1-0. The Kings had a bit of a push back to start the second but near the three minute mark of the second, Jonathan Toews appeared to give the Hawks a 2-0 lead. Referee Kevin Pollock, standing a mere foot from Jonathan Quick, signaled good goal. Somewhere in between the call to Toronto and the chaos that ensued, the officials huddled and decided to change the call on the ice to incidental contact and no goal.

Problem was, they told no one of the call. Then Joel Quenneville predictably erupted. The Kings, predictably, had a huge push and the Hawks, predictably, were in a collective fog for the better part of the period.

There are countless examples of something like this happening in sports. When a point, goal or run is put on the scoreboard and then mysteriously wiped out for reasons that only make sense to a small minority, the team that gets the break always gets a fresh breath of life and the team that has something taken away always needs time to recover from it. These are games played and officiated by human beings, after all.

Here’s the funny thing. Had the officials made that call from the beginning or had they announced they changed the call, I doubt it would have caused half the uproar that it did. I would have also been more inclined to agree that incidental contact was the right call to make. Instead, they turned it into what really could have been a series-altering call.

If it weren’t for Corey Crawford standing tall during the Kings strongest surge of the game, the Hawks could, very well, had been buried in the second period and everyone’s post-game mood would be a lot less cheery. His save on Kyle Clifford on a 2-on-1 shortly after LA tied it was probably the biggest save of the game.

Crawford was instrumental in ensuring the Hawks didn’t lose their marbles when it would’ve been totally understandable if they did.

It was only after Crawford weathered the storm that Brandon Saad was able to deliver a pregnancy-inducing cross-ice saucer pass to Duncan Keith. Keith blasted it; it hit a Kings defender and bounced over Quick’s glove.

The Hawks withstood two Kings power plays in the third and then capped the win with a perfectly executed 3-on-1 with Jonathan Toews, Johnny Oduya and Marian Hossa taking advantage of a poorly timed Jake Muzzin pinch at the blue line.

On to more thoughts

–I’m sorry I have to talk more about the blown call from the second period. Just as Sam wrote last week, the Blackhawks never seem to get frazzled for too long even when the world around them turns to black. I shutter to think how a Mike Keenan led team would have reacted to such a fate happening to them as the Hawks did today.

And the Hawks would have been justified in melting down. Make no mistake, this was a historically mismanaged situation by the NHL that ended up screwing the Hawks in the second most important playoff round. Just like last year in a Game 7 against Detroit, thought, where another goal was wiped off the board at an inopportune time, the Hawks didn’t let the situation define them.

It’s my favorite part of watching this Hawks team. No situation ever has them down for very long and they will always come back with a response. That trait is so incredibly rare and it should really be appreciated more than I feel it is. Because one day, it will be gone and potentially soul-crushing moments will truly be soul-crushing.

So let’s all try to remember that the next time they lose a game.

–Today’s blown call is also why I’m not too overly concerned with how the possession numbers look from the game. At the point before the disallowed goal even with a Kings push, the numbers were tilted in the Hawks favor. There’s just no way to quantify the affect that one play had on the rest of the game. The Hawks went from being up 2-0 after a first period that they strongly controlled to being tied 1-1 in a matter of moments.

Had the Hawks been staked to a 2-0 lead, would it have been as easy for LA to come storming back? Would the Kings have had as strong a push simply trying to respond being down 2-0 as opposed to knowing they just got a huge break? We just don’t know and in this instance of the NHL shitting all over it’s leg on national television, I’m willing to call this game an outlier until we see more.

Right, some thoughts that didn’t involve this decision.

–There was a subtle change to the Hawks lineup midway through the second period. Patrick Sharp and Brandon Saad switched spots. The change led to the go-ahead goal as Saad was instrumental in kick-starting it. Sharp found himself with Regin and Versteeg.

Of course, so long as Handzus is huffing and puffing to keep up on the top 6, it’s a constant reshuffling of deck chairs. Whether it’s Kane and Saad or Kane and Sharp or Sharp and Hossa, the second line is playing 4 on 5 for the first three to five critical seconds of offensive zone entries. I counted two times today (just off the top of my head) where Kane gained the blue line, was looking for a second option as two defenders collapsed on his first option and Handzus was off the screen, only to appear as the puck was heading the other way.

Maybe it won’t end up costing the Hawks when it’s all over. They’ve made it this far with him, after all. It’s not something, however, I’d recommend trying for a third straight year.

–Whoever comes out of this series, if anyone other than Anze Kopitar or Corey Crawford wins the Conn Smythe, it will be an absolute mockery of the award.

–Nick Leddy played exceptional for two periods, the type of play where you say, “Yes. I want to see more of this. And someone put Oduya in the cannon to launch to Florida”

Then in the third period, he trips and falls over his feet on a power play with Anze Kopitar bearing down on him (Marian Hossa bailed him out with yet another phenomenal play) and Tyler Toffoli gets behind him on a breakaway and you completely understand why Joel Quenneville struggles to trust him in big situations.

I don’t recall many 3rd period shifts for him following that Toffoli breakaway.

–Two days of rest until Game 2. I’m sure there will be more fallout from this one.

  • http://www.nosqldatabases.com Derek Stainer

    I thought Regin had an excellent game.

    • Scott Skinger

      Completely agree. If Shaw comes back this series I will be really disappointed and baffled if Regin sits in favor of Bollig. Also, I thought Rosival was not so good today…give me Brookbank!

      • 60MinutesBaby60

        Shaw’s return gonna be a shot in Sharpie’s arm. You heard it here first

        • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

          Haven’t been paying attention, too stressed during the playoffs to notice these things, but have we tried Sharp with Ben Smith?

          • Bannerman

            Bickell Toews Hossa
            Sharp Smith Kane
            Saad Regin Versteeg
            Dongballs Kruger Shaw
            If you really feel the need for his PK ability, replace Dongballs with Handzus

      • 60MinutesBaby60

        No offense mate but I’ll take Rosy over Brook (tho his fill-in for 7 was admirable for sure)

        • Scott Skinger

          I had a lot more confidence in Rosie during the regular season, but lately he has looked slow and over matched. Brookbank has been steady to good in the playoffs and he just seems to be in the right place at the right time with the stick.

          • Black JEM

            He made a bad pinch on the goal for LA – but also had a very nice clear in front of the net. He was OK.

          • Scott Skinger

            Agree on “ok”. After seeing Kings skate around him early for a quality chance I was overly focused on watching for his “bad play”, which you can do with anyone. That being said though, who is your choice for the last d-man, Rosie or Sheldon?

        • spotlight312

          Just a reminder that Roz was on the ice against LA not only in the playoffs last year but also the year before when he played for Phoenix until Dustin Brown took him out with a knee on knee hit.

    • 60MinutesBaby60

      Liking #12′s contribution today. Leddy’s too – overall ;-)

      And his CF%Rel belies it but I think Ben Smith chipped in w/ a coupla good plays – hustle stick ck on one and that backhand off wing curl driveto the net

      Kruger on the PK too nothing new there tho …,

    • Jim

      I liked Regin in there, but he got hosed at the dot. I think he was 1 of 11 on faceoffs.

  • birdhead

    “Had the Hawks been staked to a 2-0 lead, would it have been as easy for LA to come storming back?”

    I think yes.

    • TheFullAmonte

      Aren’t you just referencing the exact moment that the play happened?

      • birdhead

        No. Jen from SCH posted this chart on twitter (I disagree with her interpretation but she has marked where the disallowed goal was): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn83SBSCQAAnXNB.jpg

        People tend to interpret these charts two different ways. One is “the team with the top line is playing better”. That certainly makes the argument that the disallowed goal changed the fancystat momentum considerably sound compelling: the blue Kings line jumps over the Hawks line almost at the same time as the disallowed goal concurs.

        However, this interpretation is, ummm, how can I put this tactfully, I can’t: it’s wrong. It’s not how you read these charts if you’re looking to infer momentum. If you’re looking for momentum, what you’re really looking for is the gradients of the lines – rise over run, the rate at which a team is shooting over time compared to another team. For example, I didn’t see the third (I had to go to work) but from the commentariat I deduced that it was a better period for the Hawks than the second which I did see. If you look at the lines for the third, even though the blue line starts and finishes above the red line, the red line rises a little bit faster so the gap between the two teams is actually narrower at the end of the period.

        So if you look at the second period, what you see is the Kings’ line having a much, much steeper gradient than the Hawks’ line for the entire period. this obviously is over small time periods and therefore subject to the usual biases, but from the very first minute of that period, the Kings’ line is going up up up. In fact, the Kings’ line has its steepest gradient of the game for the four minutes *before* Toews’ goal was disallowed. In other words, the Kings’ most dominant (by-fancy-stat-standards) few minutes of the game was actually *before* the disallowed goal, and the Hawks were stagnant for the entire period.

        If you were looking to suggest from a chart like this that there was a momentum swing, you’d look for a point where the *gradient* changed. So apparently there was a point that swung the momentum in the Hawks’ favour about five-ish minutes into the third. The momentum swing in the second period happened right at the beginning – the Kings came out hard and the Hawks came out flat and it didn’t change for the whole period.

        • birdhead

          Sorry for the novel.

          • TheFullAmonte

            Thanks for the explanation. I had just thought the disallowed goal came earlier in the period.

    • birdhead

      where are all these guest upvotes coming from? i mean it’s nice but weird.

      • dirkgrahamcrackers

        itza ghost inna apopcolypese

      • GypsyDanger86

        Secret admirers and potential online stalkers.

  • wreckinball

    Horrible call . Not quite the magnitude of a Walkom but really?

    • GypsyDanger86

      I honestly don’t have a problem with it not being a goal, my problem is the circuitous rout they took to get to the decision.

      It often seems like refs can just change the rules and processes on a whim and it’s infuriating.

      • Bruno_the_Blackhawk_Cat

        I agree. It’s the tap-dancing around the “rules” that brings up all the controversy. The pre-occupation with reviewable or non-reviewable distorts just getting the call right.

      • wreckinball

        Agree would have been pissed if the ref had waved it off right away and sent Toews to the box but it would have made sense. What they did was review something that was not reviewable but now don’t want to admit it. Total BS

      • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

        So much this…. Call on the ice is a goal, and it took two minutes for anyone in a striped shirt to say the word ‘Interference.’

        The NHL explanation of this sorry affair sounds like revisionist history. Good on the Hawks for bouncing back.

        Just what is our record the last two years in games in which a seemingly good goal is waved off under spurious logic?

      • DJ

        I think it’s a “technical” refereeing problem. It’s not that the refs are dishonest, or lack a basic level of competence; it’s not that they lack the supplemental systems to get calls right (replay cameras and the guys in Toronto, etcetera). It’s that they failed to communicate what was going on in the moment.

        If prior to the review, they had gone on the PA and said “preliminary call on the ice is a goal. We also have incidental contact with the goalie. Play is under video review to see if the goal occurred before the contact,” we’d have been spared Q losing his mind, the Hawks drooping their shoulders and maybe coughing up that goal, and some NHL functionary composing a bullshit response that didn’t quite settle things.

    • QCBlackhawk

      Who do you think was on the phone?

  • guesthouse

    From the second period on, there was one time I noticed Gaborik on the ice. More of this, please.

    Also, the no-call on that trip on Saad was baffling with a zebra about 10 feet away with nothing else to be focusing on.

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      I’m good with that no call as Saad skated into the stick.

  • Your English Teacher

    “There’s just no way to quantify the affect that one play had on the rest of the game”

    Effect. You mean effect.

    • 60MinutesBaby60

      Hey teach can I get a hall pass? I gotta use the can.

      & here’s a 1 question quiz forya …In one sentence, differentiate between imply & infer using Blackhawk players.
      (Answer and letter grade of yours will follow your reply.)

      • J Gold

        When Brandon Bollig quotes a ridiculous motivational meme involving a lion not listening to the opinions of sheep, he is implying that he is a lion; when Patrick Kane dekes by multiple defenders and scores many absurd goals, it can be inferred that he is a fantastic player, unlike the aforementioned Bollig.

        Now explain the difference between deductive and inductive logic, using the limited logical abilities of any 2 St. Louis Blues goons of your choice.

        • 60MinutesBaby60

          Wordy but otherwise well-done. A-
          And lemme get back to ya re the deduc/induc logic question, as I’ve taken a coupla too many pucks to the skull and/or checks into the boards figuratively if not literally (or literaturely here.)

          • 60MinutesBaby60

            Deleted. Unneeded. Main thing:Go Hawks!

    • wardrums

      Those two words are confusing- what is the actual diffefernce

      • YoAdrienne

        Affect=verb
        Effect=noun

        • wardrums

          That helps

        • zacked

          Except to make it REALLY confusing, that’s not strictly true. 95% of the time when you use affect it is a verb and when you use effect it is a noun, but there is also affect the noun (one’s affect, an apparent mood) and effect the verb (to accomplish change).

          English be whack, yo.

  • wreckinball

    Crow is the man though He is the Cinderella of the final four but he outplays whoever he is against

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      All he does lately is win.

  • Shooter

    Well Dustin Brown just learned how little control you have when you leave your feet to take someone’s head off…..Excellent heads up play on Hossa’s part.

    • spotlight312

      Hossa learnt that jujitsu move after Torres took him out last time. Rozsival is playing with an edge coz’ he still remembers a couple of years back when Brown knocked him out of the playoffs with a knee on knee. I love in that pic at top how Gaborik was flinching as Hossa KO’d Brown as if to say “Don’t hit me please …I promise I won’t score”

      • wardrums

        It actually looked like Hossa clipped Browns head initially. I’ll bet he has Excedrin headache #81

    • YoAdrienne

      This has replaced Milan Lucic smashing his stick on the goal post after a Hawks goal as my second favorite GIF:

      http://gfycat.com/ImaginaryYellowGonolek

  • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

    Crow is our Conn Smythe candidate…

    I’m going to type that again, using his full name,” That Magnificent Bastard, Corey Mother Fucking Crawford is our Conn Smythe candidate….

    Let that sink in…. 6MM looks pretty good now, don’t it?

    • Scott Skinger

      With you. I don’t know if anybody saw Barry Melrose doing a series preview of the series on Sportscenter but he gave the Hawks the edge in goaltending and said that Crow is the most underrated goaltender in the game, going on to put him in the elite category. I couldn’t agree more.

    • 2883

      I’m nervous about Kane/Toews

    • Brain Sprain

      Bastard? His parents weren’t married?

    • Stockroom Snail

      Please refrain from bringing up his contract…it’s catnip for the stupid.

      • Black JEM

        Purrrrrr!
        As I’ve said – regular season – meh. Post season, I like. And if we get this post season after post season I will continue to praise the use of whatever analytics Stan uses.
        Now on the Bollig extension? I won’t get there -ever.

      • ChicagoNativeSon

        What’s “stupid” (sorry Sparky, not calling you stupid, just using Snail’s vernacular) is reaching a conclusion on a contract that hasn’t even kicked in. Think about it.

        And the irritating constant strawman argument. Most people I saw who were “against” the contract were simply against the timing of it and/or term.

        And you know what? When Crow had a .904 Sv% mid-season in January (how quickly “we” forget) the people who questioned the timing of the contract were probably correct. Unless others of course had a crystal ball.

        Questioning the timing of a contract doesn’t make someone stupid or a Crow hater. In fact, not questioning things is indeed the fast track to stupidity.

    • TheFullAmonte

      Crow is THE Conn Smythe candidate

  • guest

    The thing that stuck out at me most was how perfectly Oduya handled that 3-on-1. He was staring straight ahead until his pass had already left Toews’s stick on its way to the goal. Everyone knew perfectly where everyone else was and Quick had no chance. Beauty all around.

    Second thing was how, if there weren’t the massive no-goal blown call, the refs would still be under the microscope via falling for Bollig’s olympic diving performance (complete with shit-eating grin while he laid on the ice). Hawks even converted the powerplay, giving all the grist you want to Kings fans. Part of me thinks the refs robbed the hawks of the goal later to make up for gifting them one earlier. Three blind mice giveth and they taketh away.

    • Jim

      Right on Toews tape, who one timed a rocket from about 5 feet in front of Quick.

      LA took the bait when Bollig gave Quick the snow shower, was a bit of a soft call by the refs. Could have dispensed with the grin. I think the subsequent goal set the tone for the game. The refs waving off the goal was astounding to me, and is one of the things I hate about sports in general. That is, how much influence the officiating has on the game. Like that NBA ref gone bad, who wrote a tell all memoir about how they would sway the game by calling early fouls on star players, forcing their benching.

      Edit: Tim Donaghy was the NBA ref

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Donaghy

      • Black JEM

        It was a dumb penalty that was so obvious it forced the call on the Kings. Did Bollig sell it? Sure. Was it waaay after the whistle – yep. Dumb play by the Kings. And it also forced me to say something nice about Bollig. Which should be criminal.

    • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

      Could be a good point about the make up call, except we all *know* refs don’t do make up calls.

      Toews, gliding down the ice with his stick in the air, inviting (or demanding) the pass from OD.

    • wardrums

      Actually, I’d like to see more of those calls. The guy comes over late and hits him. Bollig can take it, ussualy, but I saw that Nozlle Mitchell try to establish his toughness against Versteeg a couple of times.

      Steeger should have had an assist on the shot Rosi missed

      • zacked

        Agreed, I understand why Kings fans would be mad about the call, because it’s usually not made, but there is little excuse for any after-the-whistle shenanigans and I’d be happy if the refs always had a short leash with it.

  • jacquescloutier

    any particular reason for kruger only taking two faceoffs? [sharp had five, regin went two for twelve]

    • TheFullAmonte

      Smith usually takes them on his backhand side so that took a couple but I guess he just mostly wasn’t on the ice for faceoffs? My guess is Q tried to steal minutes with that line against Kopitar a lot while the play was going but someone with better knowledge of advanced stats would have to confirm or deny that.

    • birdhead

      He only had six zone starts at even strength. With 14 ES minutes that’s really not a lot of zone starts – Regin had 16 in 11 minutes. After Kruger’s 6 and Ben Smith/Bollig’s 4, Bickell is next with 11.

      I think the Full Amonte is right – this is Q throwing Kruger out there against whoever while the play is going on, and then sending someone else out there to take the faceoff. Since Kruger’s usually OK at faceoffs I assume it’s not actually to protect him from the faceoff, but for matchup reasons.

  • Jim

    What is going on that so many people left this site for the Second City Hockey discussion board?

    • Stockroom Snail

      I think this place can be intimidating (not for me, but I can see how others might be).

      • Sparky_The_Bard-barian

        I have never felt intimidated here,,,,

        • CozBullsFan

          Neither have I.

          • QCBlackhawk

            Ditto

          • YoAdrienne

            Nor, I. I just jumped right in, and nobody batted an eye.

        • DesertHawk

          I never used to feel intimidated.

      • Bannerman

        Intimidating may be overstating it. TCI is sort of like going to a party where everyone else already knows each other. I’ve always assumed that if I stick around long enough I may fit in.

        • QCBlackhawk

          I definitely believe it’s an overstatement.
          The only times I haven’t seen people fit in is when they are immediately combative, spam, or troll without trying to respond to anybody responding to them

    • 2883

      I think some felt disenfranchised by the ouster of one of their own. Whether it was justified or not, of which I will pass no judgment, some felt that it was time to move back to a place where they could all chat…

      • Bob Lanz

        I shouldn’t ask but I am who and what happened?

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Laaarms and Why got banned. People flocked as a result.

        • QCBlackhawk

          Take a look into the Subban/Kane discussion thread if the comments are still even up

    • Marian Nation

      Personally speaking, I’m very content with the content here

      • QCBlackhawk

        I was pretty pleased until someone opened up the can of worms. I like the hockey commentary here, wasn’t a fan of the new subject expansion.

    • GypsyDanger86

      Interpretation of the events vary, but IMO casual racists were called out and banned for their remarks. Apologists for casual racists felt that the right to defend hatred was too sacrosanct to give up without protest.

      • QCBlackhawk

        What a delightfully oversimplified vilification of their response to the article.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Right? Talk about brown-nosing.

          • QCBlackhawk

            That’s okay, he’ll start using curses making fun of the mentally infirm, get banned, and show back up with another random name with numbers and an associated picture.

          • QCBlackhawk

            Oh yeah, and snidely implying some dudes are women, because that’s an insult in his world.

        • GypsyDanger86

          I understand why you feel pressed to defend them, and I genuinely hope it helps you sleep better and fends off any cognitive dissonance you have about your community and their shared beliefs.

          • QCBlackhawk

            You’re so backwards on what the commenter was claiming that it’s fucking laughable, and to automatically assume I even share their view it’s another reason lots of folks think you’re a fucking moron, no matter which yet-to-be-banned handle you’re using.

          • GypsyDanger86

            Whatever. That thread was like one awesome juice cleanse for this community. Sweep out all the junk, start fresh and healthy. I hope SCH can handle the influx of… yuck.

          • QCBlackhawk

            Which is funny, since they tried to flush you multiple times and like some kind of dehydrated turd you refused to go down the drain.

          • GypsyDanger86

            So you keep claiming, but I can assure you I have no idea what you’re talking about.

            Hatred and bigotry does tend to breed paranoia though.

            In any case, I’m quite happy with the renewed sense of peace and civility. It’s a great foundation to grow from.

          • QCBlackhawk

            The only part of hush that sucks is when you show back up it doesn’t automatically keep the previous settings.

          • GypsyDanger86

            K. Whatever. You keep referencing things I’m not particularly familiar with.

            Do what you must, just try to keep the hatred of those different than you suppressed. I’d hate for this peace to be so shortlived.

          • QCBlackhawk

            Why do you hate America?

          • GypsyDanger86

            LOL, what?

          • QCBlackhawk

            I thought we were throwing around idiotic unfounded accusations.

            I was trying to join in with you.

          • GypsyDanger86

            No, sorry. That’s not what was happening. Reread and try again. I’ll stop by on game day and see if you’ve figured it out.

            …though I’ll be hoping you’ve hopped over to the other site in that time. Like the Confederates heading out West after the end of the civil war, if you will.

          • QCBlackhawk

            So in your world, saying someone discussing race in an indelicate way is offensive, satiring the way they did it, and then (unjustly) accusing that person of being racist, then makes them a racist themselves? And anyone playing devil’s advocate about the situation is then also a racist?

            I’m just trying to follow along the twisted path of your one firing neuron here, correct me if I’ve got anything wrong.

          • dirkgrahamcrackers

            you always bringin choclate to the tire fight and it sure do get messy. lol.

          • QCBlackhawk

            I don’t think I’m drunk enough to read your posts.

          • GypsyDanger86

            I like you. You’re already several steps up on some of the people that used to post here. Stick around.

          • birdhead

            How would you know about the people that used to post here? you’ve been here for like a week.

            If you want a genuine fresh start around here, people will be willing to give it to you. Just start like new and don’t hang on to grudges. If you don’t want a fresh start, well, you’ve been banned, fuck off. Don’t try to have it both ways because it is unnnnbelievably annoying.

          • QCBlackhawk

            But if he admits to the things he said how is he going to take the moral high ground and lord it over people?

          • birdhead

            he’s kind of fucked coming and going, because it should also be pretty difficult to take the moral high ground over people he supposedly never interacted with. and yet.

          • dirkgrahamcrackers

            Oh I been here loosely. you a new one but you also an ol one if you get it and you got it top up now. They yores.

          • QCBlackhawk

            “you a new one but you also an ol one if you get it”

            Hey look, I understood something he said.

          • dirkgrahamcrackers

            heehee. you like the tide in a desert.

          • QCBlackhawk

            Not familiar with this saying?

          • dirkgrahamcrackers

            it mean if there is one it was coming and going. but there ain’t. but they could be. hoooboy.

      • CozBullsFan

        It was actually the exact opposite. A regular made a comment that basically said McClure was racist. That’s fucked up considering the ToS’s history against discrimination. He got what he deserved.

        • QCBlackhawk

          Saying a description of style of play seems like a stupid and/or indelicate way to put things is not the same as calling someone a racist. People get so fucking up in arms about discussion of the subject. If they didn’t want that discussion, the article should not have had comments enabled.

          • CozBullsFan

            I’ll quote exactly what was said. If you don’t think that’s accusing McClure of being racist, I don’t know what to say.

            “That’s only because you assume I’m white, correct? If you thought I was black, you probably wouldn’t care about my health at all. We truly have a long way to go.”

          • QCBlackhawk

            Is that laarmer’s? To be honest I don’t even see his reply any more, I was more remembering “Why”‘s post, and the subsequent apparently perfectly acceptable response of claiming he’s had his brain damaged and is unable to form rational thought.

            As stated in reply to the fucking idiot below, I don’t even necessarily agree with the points, but if you open the discussion on this sort of thing, it’s silly to get shitty with your users about their responses.

          • CozBullsFan

            I’m done with this topic. It wasn’t laaarmer’s response.

          • QCBlackhawk

            Ah, scratch that, I see what you quoted now.

            Throwing claims of racism back and forth is as dumb as politicians claiming each side is unamerican. Get nobody anywhere useful.

          • CozBullsFan

            exactly

          • QCBlackhawk

            To be fair that is in reply to the post calling him brain damaged.

          • CozBullsFan

            What McClure said was uncalled for. Thinking you are witty and calling him a racist in retort was the worst decision anyone could make.

          • QCBlackhawk

            I don’t think anybody comes out of that looking good. One of the two people is involved in running the site. :|

      • birdhead

        this isn’t really what happened at all though and I was in that whole thread and on whatever the opposing side might presumably be said to be. the objection, imo, was not with the content of laaarmer and why’s posts (many people in that thread said things that were significantly more in opposition to the original post) but a kind of cumulative dummy-spitting on the part of [some of?] the TOS in terms of being sick of individuals who would rather complain about what gets written or hector the TOS to “stick to hockey/how dare you write about things I don’t like/how dare you have a different opinion to me on !Player and continue expressing that opinion after I’ve told you to stop”. this is why the apparent offense was so mild – it was more of an okay-I’m-sick-of-you-and-this-is-the-last-straw than it was a that-particular-thing-crossed-the-line.

        and then a large group of people decided that laaarmer and why were more important to the community than the writers of the site, which is fair enough if they came here more to hang out with those guys than read the content, and debarked.

        tl;dr both you and laaarmer and why are interested in portraying them as brave souls censored for daring to disagree with the TOS on a controversial issue, but that wasn’t the impression I got and I think you should refrain from perpetuating it. The actual reason is not necessarily a better reason or a right reason or a well-justified reason, but I think it adds something to the conversation to understand that it wasn’t really about that particular thread.

        • chidiver

          I am happy to discuss my decision to exit the TCI commentariat for the time being. And I think its much more appropriate to do it here than at SCH.

          It had absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject matter of the PK/PK thread. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised how well things went for most of the day. Disagreements were mostly civil (ridiculously civil for an anonymous internet chat!)

          As XMF so eloquently stated above..I have come to TCI since the beginning for the excellent hockey insight and writing. I will continue to read what the ToS, FF and the other contributors put up here. It’s the best hockey writing around. And now that I’m not able to go to almost every game like I used to (since I live 3.5 hours from Chicago now), I’ll be enthusiastically getting an e-subscription to the Indian next season, though I’ll miss the little 30 second chats with Sam outside the UC.

          However, I STAYED HERE for the wonderfully dysfunctional, but warm family of people that has developed in the comments and GDTs over many years (dating back to SCH). In terms of “hanging out” here every day, laarmer and Why WERE more important to me than the ToS! They, along with you, XMF, Sparky, Coz, ben, Z, hog and many, many others. Why? Because they actually hung out in the comments section, WHICH THE ToS DON’T! ToS spend their time almost exclusively out in the Twitterverse, rather than interacting directly with their readers. The comments section became a distinct entity with its own identity separate from the TCI articles. So when the banhammer descended on a couple of long-term denizens because of their interaction with McClure and Sam, it was a jarring and depressing moment for many of us. They settled a border skirmish with a nuke. The ToS took their toys and went home and many of us chose to seek out another sandbox to hang out in for a while. Is it all really childish and petulant? ABSOFUKINLUTELY.

          So what happens now? Not sure. I’m gonna stay over at SCH for a while (I nearly got a blister on my pinky the first day from z-key abuse). The folks at SCH (new and old) are pretty cool and have been EXTREMELY patient and understanding thus far, but we’ll see if that lasts. I think Ahn and Stacie have done a ton of work and been wonderful in dealing with it and easing the transition.

          Over here, I think we’ll see a repeat of what happened at SCH when we all migrated to TCI. The remaining regulars will be joined by longtime lurkers who were too shy to come out of the weeds into an established community. It might be a bit quiet for a while, but the community will be refreshed a bit (things were getting a bit smelly anyway), new memes will be created, trolls will annoy and joy will eventually reign.

          Anyhoo, I’ll be over at SCH. Anyone who wants to reach out can DM me on the Twittarz (though I’m not very active and mostly lurk) @the_chidiver.

          • lizmcneill

            If people are being banned, is there a way to ban the troll and make it stick?

      • XMF

        What in the actual Hell are you blabbering about? Once again, you’re talking out of turn on things you know nothing about. How often do you show back up places where everyone despises you?

        Your little diatribe, thesaurus notwithstanding, is ridiculous. You’re doing your level best to take advantage of a little window here to assert yourself as some sort of cyber alpha commentator. But most everyone who reads your paste-cobbled nonsense here on a near-daily basis disregards everything you type as warm garbage. You know next to nothing about hockey and it shows with each successive post. Your generalized will-to-win trash is simply hushed or minimized by most people here with few reputable posters here giving even a second’s thought to your ramblings.

        You’d be better served retiring your efforts to constantly regenerate yourself under some new emo/goth screen name and to go find a nice cozy little spot to call your own. No one here gives a second thought to your dribbling slur festivals, usually in a small grouping before you’re banned- again- for being the same turd you were before.

        I guess it doesn’t bother you that your accusations of racism are easily dismissed by the fact that your screen name has an actual racial slur in it, huh? Go punch yourself in the throat.

        Apologies for the interruption, Sam. You, McClure, and Killion have been extraordinary to me. I’ll still read your stuff every day, giving you the traffic you deserve for putting out such a great product in your articles and acumen. I’m largely leaving due to the incessant ridiculousness of putting up with the person above me who just flushes everything that everyone is trying to do here. This has been an incredible community of you guys and the commentators for years now and I want to see your success continue. I just grew tired of this particular guy (above) and his/her being allowed to return on a regular basis to harass everyone here.

        I’ll be popping back in to comment from time to time, hopefully when this troll is finally convinced to stay gone. You’re the best hockey writer on the net. All this side drama is too much for a serious effort at a legitimately great site here at TCI. I continue to love what you do and how you do it. I’ll still be a subscriber to TCI each season and read your stuff here, guys.

        Everyone else- if you have my email, don’t be a stranger. I’ll be back from time to time.

  • GypsyDanger86

    I feel like the Hawks must be the most infuriating team to play against for other teams in the league.

    They can play a 98% perfect game, and they will take that last 2% of mistakes and use them to absolutely murder the competition. As a fan of the Hawks, it’s great, but man the players and coaches on the other teams must have a conditioned rage response to Blackhawks red by now.

    • Scott Skinger

      Totally agree. The way the Blues (to some extent) and the Wild out possessed, outshot and generally outplayed the Hawks…and then ultimately lose the games/series has to be frustratingly frustrating.
      BTW, I felt MUCH better about the overall style of play and game flow against the Kings yesterday than I ever did against the Wild (barring one period). The Hawks had much more room to skate and faced less pressure from the Kings in their own zone. Hopefully, Sutter continues this strategy.

      • Joe Banks

        He won’t.

  • guest!

    Reading the posts/discussions on this blog rejuvenated my brain from all the stupid I read a few hours ago at hfboards. Kings fans acting all indignant and outraged after the Bollig swan dive (which was stupid yes) when they have that POS Dustin Brown as a captain. So happy Hossa put him on his ass.

  • wardrums

    So right about Kaner not having options; the announcers at one point showed Kaner in the midst of a triangle of Kings. I believe the Hawks were on a line cjange . it bugged me how they said look he week the Kings are playing Kane. He had no option other than dump it. What was funny was how much room and time they gave Kane even when he had no other option

  • wardrums

    I thought Seabrook had one of his best defensive efforts in a long time. Hawks will be tought to beat if he gets in a shutdown mode like that.

    • nogreat

      Did you hear the bit about the commentators saying he was coming back screaming at the bench “for a little help down there”? Sounds like he was frustrated with the lack of support back in their zone.

      • Bannerman

        Waylon’d

  • BigCSouthside

    That picture looks like Hossa is taking Brown out with The Force

    • wihawkfan

      (hossa as yoda) “back on the ice fall you”

      i also thought of mr miaggi from the karate kid, “walk left side of road, safe. walk right side of road, safe. walk middle of road….sooner or later, squish, just like grape. you mr brown, same thing. play right side of net, safe. play left side of net, safe. try to schmuck hossa behind the net….squish, just like grape.”

      • denislemieux

        The Toews-Kopitar match up is great, but its not just those two; we have Marian “fucking” Hossa. He’s a beast and yes, he was The Force yesterday.

      • BigCSouthside

        I didnt see that hit in real time. I just watched a gif of it. Plays the puck and brown had him squared. Then somehow Hossa lays some Krav Maga on Brown and his helmet is bouncing on the ice.

        Thou shalt not fuck with Hossa.

  • wihawkfan

    “I counted two times today (just off the top of my head) where Kane
    gained the blue line, was looking for a second option as two defenders
    collapsed on his first option and Handzus was off the screen, only to
    appear as the puck was heading the other way.”

    f me. this hurts.

    i like the guy and his pk has been decent. points for his veteran presence (on a team that is already so mentally tough) and size in scrums, both of which keep things a little more civil. i actually think he is given as much respect, if not more, for his long time in the league as for his actual size when the pushing starts.

    but yeah, speed kills.

    ps. mr shaw……get well my frent.

  • Roberto

    At this point in the post season, I’m adjusted to what appears to generally be the new norm. While regular season, the Hawks usually enjoyed more SOG and puck possession time – post season, that now seems rarely to be the case. Instead Corey has probably had 3-4 “goalie-wins” and the Hawks take maximum advantage of opportunities. Whatever. Works for me. Just win baby.

    Last game in the UC, I was looking at the Bulls Championship banners and it’s been 16 years since their last win. This is truly the “golden age” for Hawks fans. I am trying to sit back and enjoy every minute of it.

  • Beastoftheeast81

    Anyone find a GIF of Hossa rearranging Brown’s chest plate last night? I cannot find one anywhere. :(

  • 60RHawk

    No talk of Bollig standing by the bench thinking he was supposed to change ultimately leading to him being behind the play unable to backcheck and stop Toffoli’s goal? Or at this point are we just saving our breath, accepting the fact Bollig is never leaving the lineup even if the only thing he has contributed in 10 games is getting a weak roughing call against him?