Can We Get Four Road Beers?: Hawks at Predators Preview, Pregame Thread, Jumanji

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Have to say I don’t remember the Hawks ever playing a Sunday game in Nashville. In fact, I don’t remember them every playing an away, Sunday evening game anywhere other than Vancouver, but you all can correct me on that. Seems like Sunday nights are a home tradition, but such is the schedule concoction this year.

Over the next couple days, you’ll hear the traditional, roll-out-the-cliche drivel that the last game of a road trip and the first game home after a road trip are so hard on teams. We heard it so much last year the talk may have actually caused the Hawks to mail in a couple of these, not the other way around.

Whatever the case may be, the Hawks have already had a successful road trip at 3-0-2. Going without a regulation loss at all on this sojourn would be somewhere around delirium. Especially considering there’s seven straight at home after this (even though there are some spiky opponents on that stand), the Hawks could really set themselves up in February.

Of course, Nashville hasn’t exactly been a pleasant place for the Hawks. Last year was especially a horrific, where they got tonked once (starting the February Trail of Tears), lost a heart-breaker when Ray Emery couldn’t stop a clear point shot with two minutes left (the last of the Trail of Tears), and then a win where the Hawks blew a 4-0 lead that didn’t much feel like a win.

Lineup changes are that Corey Crawford will take back the cage, and Michal Rozsival is recovered from his leg thing and will replace Sheldon Brookbank (or as he’s probably going to be known soon, “The guy Hawks fans complain about because there’s no one else to complain about”).

The Predators remain what they’ve kind of always been the past five years or so. A statistical anomaly that defies talent level and numbers to still be good. They’re the Hawks’ closest pursuers at the moment in the Central (though that could change with Scum playing as the time of writing). After a pretty putrid start, winning one of their first six, the Preds ripped off four in a row (two wins over the Kings along with conquerings of St. Louis and San Jose) before losing in OT last night to Minnehaha.

But much even more so than last year, this team is borderline garbage at even-strength. To illustrate how much, they don’t have a single player outside of gargoyle Brian McGrattan who is on the positive side of the CORSI per 60 ledger. Not one. And this year unlike last year, their special teams are middling. In fact, the Preds are dead last in shots per game at 21.5, which is a full four shots behind the team in 29th.

So how did they win four in a row? Goaltending, goaltending, goaltending. Both Rinne and Mason are rocking GAAs under 2 and SV%s over .930. Rinne goes tonight after Mason was excellent against the Wild last night.

Obviously, the big issue for the Preds this year, other than drying Shea Weber’s tears, was replacing Ryan Suter. Roman Josi has taken his place alongside Weber at even-strength and on the power play. The Preds use seven d-men regularly, with professional construction horse Hal Gill pretty much only featuring on the penalty kill. You’ll only really see Jonathan Blum on the power play.

But you can’t ignore the hole forever, especially when it means Scott Hannan is getting 20 minutes a night. Scott Hannan was finished like three years ago, and you have to make the Preds pay for desecrating the dead and trotting Hannan out there. Ellis and Josi are still developing and heavily shielded — though promising — and Kevin Klein is as serviceable and unspectacular as you’d expect someone named Kevin Klein to be.

Up front it’s the same cast of grunts and gnats and rashes you’ve come to know and loathe for a long time now. Colin Wilson is having a productive year as leading worker-bee, along with human flu-bug Martin Erat (he even looks like one). They skate hard, they don’t make mistakes, they capitalize on turnovers, blah blah blah.

You all could write the rest here, so familiar are you with the drill. The Hawks have to be clean out of their zone and can’t just try and shovel their way out along the boards. Chip ins and cross corner dump-ins are the order of the day, the better to win races against a now-slower Pred defense. Don’t give Weber too many chances to launch his Doomsday Gun on the power play. Do these things, and the Hawks vast superiority at 5-on-5 should shine through.

But we say that every time.

  • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

    Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne.

    • mightymikeD

      HI BOB

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        Hi MMD

    • BigHoss

      whats up Bob?

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        THE BLA ACK HA AWKS

        • BigHoss

          the sky was thr correct answer, sorry you dont win the car

          • BigHoss

            *the

          • mightymikeD

            psst.. you can edit posts on this site…

          • ahnfire

            quiet you. we like reading other people’s mistakes.

      • Accipiter

        The warranty on his liver.

    • Z-man19

      Hello Bob

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        Hey there doggy

    • 10thMountainFire

      Well we can drop the puck now.

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        10-4

    • Accipiter

      Bob.

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        PANDA BEAR

    • CornelisonsFlagPointer

      Missed you Thursday.

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        You didn’t look hard enough then.

  • detroit must die

    Oh, right, THIS game. *promptly starts shuffling though liquor cabinent and stocking up ice trays*

  • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

    THIS IS BOB LEDONNE’S RIP OFF OF BWANA’S BEER OF THE DAY WHISKEYS OF THE EARLY AFTERNOON!

    Today’s whiskey selection wraps up our tour of the wheaters, and is probably the most famous and sought-after bourbon in the world: Pappy Van Winkle. More specifically,Van Winkle Special Reserve Lot B (12yo), Pappy Van Winkle 15, Pappy Van Winkle 20, and Pappy Van Winkle 23.

    These bottles have been a long time staple in every bourbon geek’s cellar, and for good reason. They are prime examples of a world-class whiskey; limited quantities, old stock, high price, great back story, smooth at 107 proof (15yo), so on and so forth. Recently, Pappy’s been hyped up by about every major newspaper’s dining section, and been a casual mention by Mr. Anthony Bourdain as his brown of choice. This leaves you absolutely no fucking chance of buying this off the shelf anywhere, as it is only released once a year in November and every whiskey enthusiast, wannabe, and loaded asshole camps out at their favorite liquor store waiting for the truck to come in.

    You might be able to find some on Craigslist:12 goes for $100+, 15 for $200+, 20 for $500, and 23 for $750. Probably not worth the price to quantity ratio at Craigslist prices, but if you can find it on the shelf for 12 yo at $60, 15 under $100, 20 for $150 or 23 for $275, you won’t regret it (and if you do regret it, OL BOB will take them off your hands).

    Anyway, thanks for listening. This concludes our tour of wheated bourbons.

    • High and Wide

      I had the 15 at The Southern in Chicago a year or so ago and it almost made me cry.

      • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

        Just curious, what was the price on that?

        • High and Wide

          I believe it was $15 or $17? Their whisk(e)y menu used to be online but I see it isn’t anymore.

    • jackattack

      Old Rip Van Winkle 10 is the cheapest, the easiest to find, and, IMO, the most satisfying of the lot.

    • ahnfire

      I like this new feature, Bob. I just bought myself a 14yr Golden Cask Balvenie whisky from the duty free shop in Iceland. :D

  • mightymikeD

    Preds… the “Bogey Team” from last year (ignoring those made-up ones from that pretend province in Canada).. I’ve been waiting for this one.

    Three things Guaranteed..

    1) Rinne stands on his head

    2) Maaaartin Eeeeeeeeeeeeerat scores a goal that is so annoying a tick chewing it’s way through your perineum seems like the most fun you’ve ever had by comparison.

    3) Fucking Achy-Breaky-Shit, Hat-Country-Jingoistic-Asshole, Sweet-Embrace-Of-Death-Encouraging goal music. And that song by that paedophile as well.

    • detroit must die

      I am not a Nashville label Country fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I actually don’t mind the use of it as Nashville’s goal song, its a distinct local flavor that is way better than the non-descript techno-shit they employ in St. Louis

      • mightymikeD

        that’s part of what annoys me.. they’re in Music Fucking City and this is the best they can come up with?

        • detroit must die

          Well, to be honest, Nashville music has never been as good as Memphis’

          • kcrvpn

            Hee. Nashville doesn’t admit that Memphis exists, though, outside of messing with our schools :) .

            Ina ll fairness, a game in Nashville is a pretty fun experience despite how countrified they make it.

          • detroit must die

            A team that employed Robert Johnson or Muddy Waters for its goal song. Now THAT would be something.

          • mightymikeD

            Chicago, Detroit, StL, Philly and Nashville have no excuse for lousy goal songs, considering the heritage. For me, I’d love to hear Smokestack Lightning when the lamp gets lit at the UC

          • detroit must die

            *goes to youtube, types in “Howlin’ Wolf”

            ah……

          • mightymikeD

            on the subject of Howlin’ Wolf, when Bolland scores they should play “Evil” in its entirety, with the arena darkened except for a spotlight on Dave, alone at centre ice, looking slightly annoyed and mumbling to himself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOl8MlVveA

          • AMR

            I just don’t see it as a goal song but that is just my personal preference.

          • mightymikeD

            everyone there could nod their heads and go “Not only do we do Hockey better than anyone, we also do the Blues too”.. then drink some whiskey and get done wrong by their woman.

        • cliffkoroll

          Doesn’t Chelsea Dagger demonstrate that the whole POINT of a goal song is to be annoying to the opposition?

          • mightymikeD

            granted.. but there’s “Annoying The Foe” and then there’s “So Brain-Shittingly Horrible That Anyone With Ears Regrets That Fact”

      • BigHoss

        fuck STL wanna be scum

    • 10thMountainFire

      I love you.

      • mightymikeD

        **sniff* love you too, man

    • BigCSouthside

      Ugh. Fuck erat. I hope he gets butt cancer

  • detroit must die

    Christ Jonathan Quick is god-fucking awful this season.

    • mightymikeD

      Brother Got Paid.

      • detroit must die

        Jimmy Howard straight up schooled him. 45 saves (gotta love that tough Detroit D!)

        • ArlingtonRob

          Was that robbery by the Wings, or simply a gift from LA…little of both I suppose. At least it wasn’t a bloody 3 point game.

          Man I hate that extra point…it just aint’ right.

      • BigHoss

        his back has been bugging him

        • JesusMarianHossa

          Yup. He’s noticeably slower post to post. Not Ray Emery slow, but slow.

          • BigHoss

            like frenchie slow

  • MattC86

    Thou Shalt Not Insult the Georgia Satellites

  • 2883

    Man our 6th dman and 12th forward really stink… god I hate Brookbank and Bollig…

    • BigHoss

      its better that skille and boynton

    • jackattack

      Dollars says Bollig gets sent down when Carbomb gets back.

      • MattC86

        I hope so. God, I hope so. But I fear he won’t be.

        • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

          Bollig’s got the 2nd highest Corsi on the team. Yes, he’s been completely protected in terms of zone starts, and no, it doesn’t mean he’s good at hockey, but having the 2nd highest Corsi I can’t imagine that anyone has seen the puck going the wrong way too often when Bollig is on the ice.

          Plus, he draws more (non-fighting) penalties than any other Hawk, and he’s tied with Toews for the 5th best PenTaken/PenDrawn ratio on the team (behind Saad, Sharp, Stalberg, and Bickell).

          • jackattack

            True on all accounts, but Carcillo is better than Bollig at everything Bollig does, and he can actually skate, contribute offensively and move up and down the lineup. No need for Sam’s #1 Crush when Danny gets back.

          • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

            I’d prefer Mayers as the odd man out, but it would be nice to not skate either of them. Carbomb-Kruger-Frolik is an awesome 4th line.

            But as it sits, I’m pretty sure no one has to be sent down unless Monty miraculously recovered.

    • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

      Brookbank was supposed to be the #8 d-man, so basically what do you think of him compared to John Scott?

      He’s never ever had offensive talent, so he’s a strictly defensive player and has been able to fill in on the PK. Most 7-8th d-men get heavily sheltered. Brookbank has gotten the toughest zone starts of all Hawks’ defensemen. I’ll take a -1 from an extended injury fill-in.

      3 out of 4 nights he’s not noticeable. And IMO that’s a good thing.

      I’d be more concerned about the #6 defenseman on this list, the only other without a point at EV: http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=63&s=20&f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f4=D&f5=CHI&f7=5-&c=0+1+3+5+17+18+19+20+29+30+31+35+36+37+38+39+40+47+48+49+50+51+52+53+54+55+56+63+67+57+58+59+60+61+62+64+65+66#

      • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

        BTW, I’m expecting Leddy and Rozsy to tear it up tonight. Before he got hurt, Rozsival and Leddy looked great. Most dangerous 5-6 pairing in hockey, no?

        • High and Wide

          they did seem really good together. I hope they hit it off as well again!

        • jackattack

          I dunno about most dangerous, mainly cause I don’t know all of the bottom pairings well enough, but I would take them as a 3-4 pairing, so that should say something. Rozy is slow and unexciting, but he’s a great partner for Leddy’s wizardry and relative lack of experience. Not many thing are better than a big, pseudo-snarl, responsible guy with an exciting, speedy and offensively capable youngster as your bottom pair.

          • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

            Well Leddy was 9th in the league last season in EV scoring among d-men. And Roz has a great underrated shot. Yeah, I think most team would take them as 2nd pairing.

      • High and Wide

        2883 can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that was intended as a tongue-in-cheek complaint in the vein of this part of the post:
        “will replace Sheldon Brookbank (or as he’s probably going to be known soon, “The guy Hawks fans complain about because there’s no one else to complain about”).”

        • ahnfire

          ughhhh why must our bottom-roster guys be so bottom-roster?

          ughhhhhh so terrible, everything is terrible.

      • Z-man19

        If Moonpie is the worst Dman the hawks dress this season, I will feel pretty good

      • 10thMountainFire

        All of this.

      • 2883

        I was being sarcastic…. I think Brookbank is fine for what he is… I think he’s more than fine./

      • 2883

        Oh I’m sorry my sarcasm wasn’t completely evident there….

  • BigHoss

    haha the pic made me lol

    • fleshrifle

      Believe me…I was really uncomfortable in those shorts under those lights. It took me 3 hours to explain to Chris Hansen that I was bringing the pizza that HE ordered.

  • Paul the Fossil

    Last night at a poker game I met a Hawk fan who just absolutely hates Nick Leddy. Was completely dismissive of any suggestion that Leddy has improved this year or will ever be anything but a defensive disaster out there, etc. Later it occurred to me from his specific comments that it was a safe bet that he’d been one of the hardcore Soupy haters….for some hockey fans there’s only one legitimate form of NHL defenseman. Slick-skating puckhandling guys who aren’t built like Seabrook just will never qualify and that’s that and if we really knew the game we’d understand it!

    • mightymikeD

      Do you now own his house, car, wife and him?

    • DesertHawk

      Did you win his partial season tickets from him?

      • mightymikeD

        zangg!!

  • http://twitter.com/LBlissettUSA Luther Blissett

    I think it ends tonight sadly. But 9-1-2 is still awesome.

    • DesertHawk

      Shun the Unbeliever!!! SHUN!!!

      • KingTalkyTiki

        I just shunned the hell out of him. Is it wrong?

        • 10thMountainFire

          I am cloudbursting and giving him the sparkly eyes right now.

          • ahnfire

            ….I can’t even.

          • girlphoenix

            do i even want to know what this is supposed to mean…

        • http://twitter.com/LBlissettUSA Luther Blissett

          I don’t want it to end! It’s just, they’re gonna lost sometime. Feels like the Preds steal one. However, them playing last night has me sort of rethinking. If I’m wrong, I’ll be gladly wrong.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

        I’m shunning him as hard as I can!

    • 10thMountainFire

      I think you need to re-think your thinking, thinker.

  • Toews still makes funny faces!

    Sam???
    Georgia Satellites? For Real??? Nashville is in Tennessee NOT Georgia!!!
    Please, don’t give no lines and keep your hands to yourself.

    • Z-man19

      Do you have some change in your pocket?

      • Toews still makes funny faces!

        I’ve got a little, and it’s jingle lingle ling too.

  • JesusMarianHossa

    Could not agree more that even strength play is the order of the day. Hawks should be able to make hay on the powerplay, although the showing in San Jose save for the 5-on-3s, was not anything to be proud of. The Preds’ PK has been pretty mediocre to downright bad this year.

    I’d be satisfied with a point tonight. Obviously hoping the ride keeps rolling though.

    • http://whatisthebestadverb.wordpress.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      The showing against Phoenix (minus the 5-on-3s) as well … 0-for-7. Everyone needs something to worry about after such a godawful start as this, and for me it’s the inept PP. Crazy that our record is what it is without an adequate PP.

      • http://twitter.com/neo873 Neo

        The first line (with Saad) is scoring in what can at best be classified as a pedestrian pace.

        The second line is getting pinned in its own zone in an embarrassingly consistent basis.

        Q doesn’t trust his third line in any type of checking role.

        And the fourth line has a guy on it that is SO bad, Q needs to start him 77.8% of the time in the offensive zone just to get him ice time.

        And could somebody remind the Hawks top defensive pair that they are supposed to be the top defensive pair?

        And they have how many points? Whatever these guys are on, I want some…

  • JesusMarianHossa

    Also, I can’t explain it for the life of me, and I don’t get worked up over lesser names like this but…

    Fuck David Legwand thirteen ways from Sunday. I absolutely cannot stand that guy.

    • mightymikeD

      or as Foley would say “Leegwaaaaarrnd”.. and yes, fuck him.

    • jackattack

      Legwand is Icelandic for “shitstain.”

    • High and Wide

      I actually get so much joy out of the fact that he is named “Legwand” that I’m willing to forgive his irritating presence. I may be too easily amused.

  • Barnum22

    Edzo on NBC today would mean konroyd tonight zzzzzzz Lets Go Hawks!!!!

    • AMR

      Maybe not. There is plenty of time to fly from Detroit to Nashville for the game

      • High and Wide

        Tracey Myers said he wasn’t doing the Hawks game tonight.

        • AMR

          There is that then

    • girlphoenix

      that fucker better not jinx shit tonight

      • 10thMountainFire

        Salty. I like it.

        • girlphoenix

          if we happen to not win tonight, unthinkable though, i’ll blame it on konroyd and whoever said it here earlier

          • Accipiter

            Thats a stabbin’

          • 10thMountainFire

            Sounds good to me. Konroyd is an easy foil. Mostly because he sucks.

  • 10thMountainFire

    I dread facing Pekka Rinne but boy would I take that guy on my team…

    • mightymikeD

      yes, indeed.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Mostly because Finnish goaltenders tend to have names of pure awesome-ocity:

        Tuuka Rask
        Pekka Rinne
        Antti Niemi

        • mightymikeD

          and Vesa Toska.. wait, nevermind

          • birdhead

            Toskalol?

        • Accipiter

          Miikka Kiprusoff
          Kari Lehtonen
          Niklas Bäckström
          Antero Niittymäki

  • ballyb11

    Whoever scheduled this game must have their head up their… Sunday night game, kids, everyone likes to get home early. Additionally, I like to get to bed early.

  • putmeinthemadhouse

    This better not be one of those annoying games that always happens vs nashville.

    • mightymikeD

      it will be… Nashville=Annoying.. like a small bug bite just under your ribcage that you’re dying to scratch, I mean REALLY dying.. but this is an important meeting and you can’t. And it’s really hot in here… and.. boy is that bite itchy.. what’s the boss saying? Oh shit, is he talking to me? MAN this bite itches!…

      That’s Nashville

  • ballyb11

    Gotta ask. Are comments randomly posted? Seems like no rhyme or reason. And what does “In an hour” mean?

    • mightymikeD

      “Sixty minutes from now?”

      • ballyb11

        Posted……in an hour?

        • Accipiter

          Just giving you a heads up.

          • ballyb11

            Close my eyes. My post is coming up.

      • ahnfire

        upboat for the badger.

        • Z-man19

          Ahn, your back, awesome

          • ahnfire

            what about my back?

          • Z-man19

            You ARE in a good mood, excellent

    • putmeinthemadhouse

      you can sort by newest under the discussion tab

  • CornelisonsFlagPointer

    Anyone care that Kaner had Friday and Saturday nights out, I mean off? I haven’t seen any pics tweeted, so that’s good.

    • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

      So did the rest of the team.

  • ballyb11

    Why in God’s name would anyone want an email notification for every post? Lonely?

    • Accipiter

      Do you need a hug ?

      • ballyb11

        As a matter of fact, yes.

        • ballyb11

          I’m not homophobic either.

          • Z-man19

            Closterphobic?

          • 10thMountainFire

            Francophobic?

          • Z-man19

            Depends on the Frank

          • 10thMountainFire

            Then I ain’t afraid of no Frenchman.

      • 10thMountainFire

        As long as you’re handing them out…

  • 10thMountainFire

    Tonight is the night Sharp breaks out of it. With all of the posts he’s been hitting, his ‘streak’ has been a mirage. He has been active defensively and tossing a bit of his weight around. Tonight is the night.

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    Another classic trap game at the end of a successful road trip.

    • 10thMountainFire

      There’s only one letter separating ‘trap’ from ‘crap’, my friend.

      • Sparky_The_Barbarian

        That’s the point of a trap game, not how they play, but how we play.

        • 10thMountainFire

          The point of a trap game is to piss me off. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, that’s the definition I’m sticking with.

  • girlphoenix