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Back To The Front

Do I really need a reason to post a picture of Cliff Burton? I didn’t think so. He’s who I pray to, so I think he got this done for us all yesterday.

Let’s talk hockey. Fuck and yes. By now you all know the details of the CBA — cliff notes version: same cap this year, $64 million next year, two buyouts, eight-year limit on your free agents, seven on others, 50% variance. Ok then, what does all this mean for your beloved Men Of The Red And Black?

How do the Hawks stack up cap-wise?

They’re actually going to be pretty safe, which should keep me from having to defend Stan Bowman for a good five minutes. Oh my god, I get to play with Cap Geek now! I haven’t done that in like a year!

Right now, the Hawks are at a cap-payroll of 64.4. Now, that’s before the expected trade of Niklas Hjalmarsson and the jettisoning of some floatsam. Maybe Frolik, maybe Stalberg, or one or two other names. But likely something would have to come back, so the Hawks will be somewhere around 62-64 million for this year. Even if Jimmy Hayes and Brandon Bollig don’t appear up here, Brandon Saad will, so that cancels out.

The big question is what happens next year. Right now, the Hawks have 17 players signed for next season at a cost of $57 million. But that includes Hammer, and we all expect him to not be here. If that’s the case, that’s 16 signed for 53.5 million. Let’s throw in a Montador buyout and that’s 15 for about 50.8 million. Personally, I would buy out Oduya first because I think Clendening could skate third-pairing minutes next year for much cheaper, but that will depend on how he finishes in Rockford getting top pair minutes this year.

The real boon here is that some of those open slots next season are going to be swallowed up by kids in the system. Saad will assuredly be on the team next year if by some miracle he isn’t this one. So that’s 16 slots filled at just 51.6. For argument’s sake, let’s say Danault makes the big jump, that’s 17 at 52.5. I’ll throw Morin in there just because, and that’s 18 at about 53.4. You can replace Morin’s name with Hayes (either brother) or McNeill or someone else, and it’s about the same.

That will leave somewhere around 10 mildo to play with. There are some FA’s to think about, as both Leddy and Kruger will probably be priorities  in the offseason. But neither are going to combine to swallow up anywhere near all of that 10 million in space. Stalberg and Bickell are also up, but there are players in the system coming to replace them, and they’ll probably only stick around if they can be had for cheap again. So as far as big market teams go, the Hawks are pretty well positioned. It will take some work, but they’re not going to have to sacrifice anything to a demon to make it work like GMs in Vancouver or Philadelphia just might.

The following season, when the cap will almost certainly drop again, the Hawks only have the core minus Bolland but plus Montador and Oduya signed. Sadly, those eight guys take up 41 million, but if we remove Oduya and Montador from the equation that frees up a further six million. What happens then will depend on how the Danaults, Saads, Johns, Clendenings, Carruths, and other kids look by then.

How are the Hawks positioned on the ice this year?

I’ll give  you a day or two before you start worrying about this, because you’re going to. That’s because in a shortened, compressed schedule where the play for at least the first month is going to be utter dogshit, pretty much everything is going to come down to goaltending and special teams. I’ll pause for a second while your lunch comes up.

Corey Crawford hasn’t been playing anywhere as far as I know. We have no idea how a full eight months off with only a week’s training camp is going to affect him. Ray Emery isn’t much relief either, and the Hawks very well could pay for not being more ambitious with their backup goaltending position. Unless of course Bowman addressed it when the gates open this week. Yeah, urpy.

Special teams? I have this hunch we’ll spend enough time talking about this over the next few months that I don’t have to just this minute.

On the plus side, the Hawks have plenty of players who have spent a lot of time together and won’t need to gel. You could throw Daydream Nation and Sharp-Shooter out there tomorrow and they’d probably score pretty regularly. Same thing with Seabrook and Keith. Bolland-Bickell-Frolik could walk out tomorrow as well and be one of the better checking lines around. So there are some things you can get excited about.

Any new nicknames from you idiots this season?

I think I may add “Johnny Revelator” to “Captain Marvel” and the other ones we have for Toews. But I’ll keep you posted.

When’s your official season preview start on the blog?

End of the week probably.

Will there be a site launch/opening night party somewhere where everyone gets to hit Killion with a fish?

You bet your ass there will be, and we’re working on it now. Even if I have to host it myself and you all have to sit on Lena the printer. Actually, Killion’s place is bigger so we’ll go there. And you all can play with the dog. Jackson’s much nicer than the three of us anyway.

  • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

    Real sentences and questions? I thought the cap was guaranteed to never decrease in the new GBA

  • Bonzo

    Johnny Revelator is gold, Jerry, gold.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

      I also like Johnny Hockey.

    • DesertHawk

      I… don’t get it :(

  • Roland2327

    Under the new CBA doesn’t Olesz’s salary count against the cap? So wouldn’t he be the first buyout? Then you go to Montador, Oduya or whoever.

    • http://twitter.com/oregon_hawk Oregon_hawk

      I think this may be true.

    • raditzzzz

      there is a name i never want to hear again.

      • Joe Banks

        Is that why everyone is worried that Crawford will be “Rusty”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/AndrewJosephDeTolveIV Joe DelTove

    I’m really happy that Cliff Burton has a shit eating grin on his face because hockey is back!

  • AirTrafficAJ

    Did someone say party?

  • FakeASeizure

    I’m lovin “Saad The Impaler”.

    • Waylon

      Thanks for the shout – out on that one. And in case you’re new here, prior nicks for players on other teams are pretty well – thought out as well. My own personal fave is Chimpy McSmirkton for Kevin Bieksa. Or you could use Bieksabub alternatively.

      • FakeASeizure

        I read daily and comment rarely. Seems like, tho, with recent goings on, that everyone’s coming out of the woodwork. NEW SHIT HAS COME TO LIGHT, MAN!

        • Accipiter

          Calmer than you are.

  • jtm1631

    Saw Metallica and armored saint at the Aragon ballroom back in the day. Buckets of beer and great music. Those were the days.

  • Tim Goodson

    I know there was talk that the new CBA could have a provision where money/cap could be included as part of a trade (similar to baseball). Has anyone seen if this made it in the final agreement?

  • laaarmer

    Why don’t we just call the CBA “The countdown” That’s what it is right?
    Anyway regarding the team. The young guys need to play in the short season, right now. Frolik, Olet’s, Monty, etc. Sorry boys. Hutton has been playing. May want to have him available for the beginning of the season – 9 games, or trade for that kid Gibson.

    • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

      I agree with you. (let’s not make this a habit) Would like to see Hutton up to start the season, since Crow’s probably still a bit rusty (read: probably still sucks)

      • http://twitter.com/oregon_hawk Oregon_hawk

        Maybe he learned to use his edges and see the color blue in the off-season.

      • raditzzzz

        ohmygod we have calls to throw carter hutton out there in a shortened season…i think i need a drink after reading that.

        • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

          Well, I don’t think it would ever happen. Just making my wish list. But Carter’s been doing fine again this year.

          It’s the idea of Crawford/Emery as the goaltending combo that will cause my liver failure.

          • raditzzzz

            lol, our goaltending depth has been a joke for a while now. interesting thing is, crawford is the guy who came up through hawks minors, and the boss made a gamble on our future with him. if crow doesn’t have a stand out season, i don’t see bowman doing that again. i put my money on him trying to acquire someone from the outside. maybe carruth could fit in that time table if he gets promoted to rockford and spends a few years there and could be brought up if he proves his worth in rock vegas. maybe hutton could be brought up as a back up if stan dumps crow and trades for a vet. crow will only get a shortened season to prove to the brass if he can hack it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

            Sadly, I doubt he can even Hackett.

          • Joe Banks

            I saw what you did there…

          • flavius

            Oduya?

          • http://www.facebook.com/timothy.fisher.581 Timothy Fisher

            mid season form here already.

  • http://twitter.com/CheerTheAnthem Cheer the Anthem

    With Danault coming on strong, Kruger wouldn’t be a priority unless you were planning on shipping out Bolland at some point, right?

    • Gozer the Traveler

      oh, don’t say that! i’ve been wanting a bolly jersey for so long, i need him to stay. not the least because he’ll be a gigantic pain in our ass every time we play whatever team he leaves for. you better believe he’ll be up for those games.

      • http://twitter.com/CheerTheAnthem Cheer the Anthem

        I like him too, but the cap rules all. If you have Danualt and Kruger (or even just Danault) you can’t just give Bolland a raise.

  • Paul the Fossil

    “in a shortened, compressed schedule where the play for at least the
    first month is going to be utter dogshit, pretty much everything is
    going to come down to goaltending and special teams.” Hmm…that doesn’t ring logical for me. But maybe we don’t need to speculate since we have a previous example to look at: the 1994-95 season.

    Power play: during the post-2005 era PP% has not correlated at all well with which teams end up going deep in the springtime. (“Going deep” being defined here as reaching at least the conference finals.) Teams with crappy powerplays have reached the Finals or even won it all (Bruins 2011) while teams with great powerplays have flamed out or failed to even make the playoffs, etc. So how did that go for the 48-game 94-95 season?
    Three teams were clustered at the top that season in PP rate, all at just over 24%: the Hawks, the Wings and the Nordiques (R.I.P.). Next in PP% came the Bruins, then a tight clump of the Rangers, Capitals, Canucks and Flyers. All eight of those best powerplay teams that year made the playoffs; one of them (Det) reached the Finals, two more (Chi and Phi) reached the conference finals. All of which argues that powerplay was a big factor in success that season but there is one big countervailing indicator: the Devils, who won it all despite one of the league’s _worst_ powerplays (ranked 23rd out of 26 teams). When you look at the league stats overall that year though NJ really is an outlier on this point so on balance the fairest statement is that yes, power play results mattered a lot to which teams did best during that shortened season.

    Penalty-killing: the PK% standings didn’t correlate quite as well with winning and losing — it’s still mostly playoff teams doing the best on this front but not as strongly so. The Devils [they must have been pretty awesome 5-on-5] were one of five playoff teams to be worse than league average in PK%. Only two of the four conference-finals teams (Det and Chi) had above-league-average PK’s during the season. Tampa Bay’s 8th-in-the-league PK% didn’t prevent them from going 17-28-3. On the other hand Det rode the league’s best PP plus second-best PK to the league’s best regular-season record…on balance a fair statement is that penalty-killing results mattered a moderate amount to which teams did best that season.

    Goaltending: hmm, not as clear how to judge this one. I do notice that only one of the league’s five best goalies that year by save percentage made the conference finals and that none of the five best by total saves did. Also only one of the top five goalies in shutouts was still playing by the third round (Eddieeeeee!). Hockey-reference.com has a “goalie point shares” stat and I notice that for 1995 _none_ the five top-ranking starting goalies by that measure made it even out of the first playoff round. Detroit had a great season playing the Vernon/Osgood duo. The Flyers went deep despite starting an aging Hextall who put up a smelly .890 save pct. for the year…in fact after the Wings the next _six_ best regular-season records were put up by teams using starters having save percentages of .904 or lower. (League best was .930, 5th in the league was .914.)
    This is an admittedly subjective call but…it does not look to me like goaltending caliber was a particularly-big factor in which teams did best for that shortened 94-95 season. Put it this way: despite the Devils winning the spring tourney with their HOFer in net and the Hawks making the conf finals backed by a great season from Eddie, a lot of teams did very well that season with goaltending that was far from dominant.

    • SamFels

      Tell you statistics to shut up.

      • DesertHawk

        Hey, you!… Yeah! You, the Statistics… Shut up!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

      Can you give a brother a TL:DReach around?

      • Gozer the Traveler

        ok, here’s the tl;dr version:

        “in a shortened, compressed schedule where the play for at least the
        first month is going to be utter dogshit, pretty much everything is
        going to come down to goaltending and special teams.”

        is this true?

        maybe.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

          So you’re saying we have a chance.

          • flavius

            I like the cut of your jib

  • Banjo Legs

    There’s also a certain Dylan Olsen who could take up a D man spot full time pretty much now as well.

    • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

      Not with the way he’s played in Rockford. He looks more like a career 6th-7th d-man, than a Seabrook-lite. Hopefully he can pick it up.

      • http://twitter.com/CheerTheAnthem Cheer the Anthem

        He can’t even get on the ice in Rockford. Brett Lebda (once a -3 in a 7-3 victory) dresses over him.

        • Paul the Fossil

          Ouch…and since there won’t be any training camp there’s no opportunity for Olsen to reintroduce himself to the Hawk brass. Sounds like he’s staying in Rockford this season.

          • putmeinthemadhouse

            Theres going to be a camp.

        • http://twitter.com/ChiNativeSon ChicagoNativeSon

          Yeah, I got to talk to him during one of those games. I had seats next to the tunnel and Olsen was hanging out there during the game.

          Shot the shit for a few minutes. Then I asked him, “So, are you hurt?”
          “Nope.”
          Oops. Wrong question to ask. He turned and went back into the locker room.

          • http://twitter.com/CheerTheAnthem Cheer the Anthem

            They say he’s a bit of a dunderhead, but it has to kill a kid to know he’s riding the pine down there as a 1st round pick. Adding insult to injury, from the way Chris Block made it sound, the Chicago people were sort of calling the shots with the Rockford lineup.

    • Joe Banks

      I have been meaning to ask “What the hell has happened to Dylan Olsen?” – his career trajectory resembles a lawn dart this year. I hope he and Shawn LaLonde aren’t about to go all Cam Barker on us.

  • Ryan Bibich

    Who is daydream nation?

    • Accipiter

      Daydream Nation: DDN, The combination of Toews and Kane on the ice, combined they are 1988, the year the album of the same name was released, and their birth years

      • BigCSouthside

        Need to bring the old nickname guide back

        • Accipiter

          I went back to SCH to dig that up.

          • Z-man19

            And?

          • Accipiter

            It’s not dead.

          • Z-man19

            Why didn’t you bring it back? Is it ok if we call you Javey? Accey just doesn’t seem right

          • Accipiter

            Call me whatever you like, as long as you call me.
            Bringing SCH for Dummies here would be Lance’s job. Besides I am not skilled enough with the internet to accomplish such a feat.

        • 10thMountainFire

          I think this comment needs upvotes in for motivation.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hair.helmet Hair Helmet

            Fine, but I really don’t see why.

            Bagerdano’d like the good ol’ days.

          • stacie7

            Sniffle :(

  • BigCSouthside

    Hossa is cleared to play, right?

    • FakeASeizure

      yup. pumped

      • BigCSouthside

        Excellent. Lets get this shit started!

    • 10thMountainFire

      Fuck yes, he is.

  • Waylon

    Hate to see Monty go in this scenario – mostly because I thought he was used improperly last season. Why Q refused to allow him to set up on the PP on the point and unleash that heavy – ass shot still rankles me to no end. The man’s got a cannon back there, and he tends to shoot it accurately, if given the opportunity.

    • Joe Banks

      If Q doesn’t fix special teams, Lovie can tell him what happens next…

      • red palace

        Scenario A: it is 2012, and you are a team in a major pro sports league. Your defense is the 5th best in the entire league, but your offense is the 5th worst. What happens next? You barely miss the playoffs and you fire your coach, because you are the Chicago Bears.

        Scenario B: it is 2012, and you are a team in a major pro sports league. Your defense is the 2nd best in the entire league, but your offense is the 2nd worst. What happens next? You barely make the playoffs, but you proceed to win your sport’s most cherished prize, and you are the toast of the town for a week or two, although completely ignored by year’s end, because you are the Los Angeles Kings.

        Parity? Luck? An argument for expanding the NHL playoffs? Proof that Lovie is coaching the wrong sport?

        • http://www.facebook.com/timothy.fisher.581 Timothy Fisher

          BUT didn’t the Kings MAKE a coaching change mid-season????

    • putmeinthemadhouse

      Also was a PK specialist for most of his career if I remember correctly, don’t think he breathed a second of air on the kill.

  • 10thMountainFire

    God came to Earth and played Anesthesia. Then he died on an icy road in Sweden and went home.

  • ToewsFatherInLaw

    I am just happy they got it done. And I am glad that it is a 10 year deal! Hopefully it will give a chance for all the adolescents to grow up so that the next deal can just get done, without all the nonsense!

  • Sparky_The_Barbarian

    So Stan is sitting back with a smug smile on his face, saying, “How do you like me now for not signing a 2C free agent last year for 7 MM / season…”

  • derlemke

    I can’t wait for a season preview. The puck can’t drop soon enough. The idea of losing Bolland sickens me. I just see no way around it.

    • Waylon

      Yeah, I don’t think anyone here likes the idea of Bolly being shipped out elsewhere. But he’s getting more expensive to keep around each year, so perhaps this will be his last season. Sucks.

      • red palace

        Bolly stays

      • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ PowrFwd37

        Perhaps the players (and I know that I’m seriously reaching here) will figure out real soon that the money that they make will have to come down. There just is no way to sign the same sort of contracts league-wide without the “protection” of the Hossa/Luongo/Suter/Parise contracts on your payroll somewhere. I love to use the Sesame Street example 2——–> 4 <———-2 you know; two, two, FOUR! It really is simple math. The guys that have those huge-ass back-loaded contracts this season are the last ones to get them and the players know that. They have to. Perhaps (and this is ultimately the point I started to make) they will realize that keeping the core of a good team together while making only 2.7 mildo to play with a great group of friends is better in the quality of life reality than making 3.1 somewhere that you have no good team or great friends around you.

        There is always hope, right? I mean – the NHL is about to come back.

    • justforkicks

      i’m just not ready, or think kruger is ready, to take his place.

  • Joe Banks

    Lena the Printer?

  • ahnfire

    I was listening to the Marek v Wysh podcast today and they brought up a point at the end that I had forgotten – the Circus trip is usually the first few weeks of Feb. I wonder how the schedule is going to work out, especially since it’ll be mostly divisional play.

    • Accipiter

      Isn’t the circus trip in November ?

      • ahnfire

        Disney on Ice. Whatever. Either way, the UC has something the first few weeks of February.

        • Accipiter

          I see. Could be advantageous to have more home games later on in the abbreviated season.

          • Z-man19

            The Disney trip was part of the trip into the Abyss last year

          • Accipiter

            I suppose lightening could strike twice, but it is a new season and I don’t really think there is a correlation between the two events.

          • Z-man19

            You don’t see a correlation between the hawks sucking and them playing in Alberta?

          • Accipiter

            No. Should I ?

          • Z-man19

            Did they win there last year or even come close to a win?

          • Accipiter

            No. No winning. New season, new possibilities Zed.

          • pompoon

            Well that’s just awesome, here I am all excited about hockey coming back, and I’m reminded of the game that never happened in a province that doesn’t exist. Thanks guys. (seriously though, damn I missed this so much!)

          • Z-man19

            You aren’t the only one

          • Z-man19

            What’s with the Canadians calling me Zed? You and Agony

          • Accipiter

            That’s how we speak. The last letter in the alphabet is zed.

          • Z-man19

            Can’t I be Omega instead?

          • Accipiter

            Omega 3, 6, or 9 ?

          • Z-man19

            D. All the above

          • ahnfire

            playing where? Z, have you been drinking & making up places again?

          • Z-man19

            I didn’t want to say it, I was happy with the Abyss

          • Sparky_The_Barbarian

            Maybe with the shortened season we won’t have to go?

          • DesertHawk

            What’s Alberta?

          • flavius

            That’s a clothing label, I think

          • http://www.facebook.com/timothy.fisher.581 Timothy Fisher

            an Italian Skier.

  • girlphoenix

    bollig tweeted about going to chicago…so there’s that.

    terry broadhurst, brandon svendsen, ben youds, and david gilbert were all added to rockford today so that gives an idea of about how many guys are coming up

    • ahnfire

      So they called up a C, RW, LW & a D. Bollig is coming up, so I’m assume the other Hogs leaving would be Leds & Kruger. Guesses on the fourth? I think it’s either Shaw or Smith. I hope it’s Smith.

      • girlphoenix

        probably shaw.

        • ahnfire

          :( anything that makes a Shaw-Bollig-Carcillo line a possibility makes me sad.

          • Accipiter

            You could remove any one of the three and add Mayers if it will make you feel better.

          • Z-man19

            Makes me feel better, Mayers for Bollig

          • girlphoenix

            you must not be following the hogs with their beach-shaw-bollig line. it’s……..interesting

          • ahnfire

            If by interesting you mean filled with PIM-stupidity…

            I am sad, twitters say Shaw is at practice so that means Smith is probably still in RockVegas. :(

          • http://www.facebook.com/USA.Kyle Kyle Miller

            thats a line i’d like to see actually, remember bollig has a lil skill down below, and he’s young, give him a chance. he not that bad with the puck IMO

      • girlphoenix

        wait where did you see they are a c, rw, lw & a d? on the ahl website, broadhurst, youds, and gilbert are all listed as d

      • Joe Banks

        Smith earned it. Shaw stood around.

        • girlphoenix

          ben smith is great!

          • Accipiter

            Sounds like something a Ben Smith enthusiast would say.

          • girlphoenix

            it’s a fact though

          • DesertHawk

            you being a Ben Smith enthusiast?

          • Joe Banks

            He’s one of the better “glass-cleaners” I’ve seen.

          • girlphoenix

            what does that mean?

    • justforkicks

      oh hell

  • http://www.facebook.com/USA.Kyle Kyle Miller

    Joel Quennville is said to be coaching this season with “an iron fist” and star players will have to earn special teams play as well. Any thoughts?

    • Sparky_The_Barbarian

      Bout fucking time. That’s how we won a cup.

    • justforkicks

      lord what does he mean by earn. bollig could work his ass off, but doesn’t mean he deserves to play over some other players.

      • Accipiter

        It worked for Scoot. Hell, he even saw some playoff power play time.

        • justforkicks

          Freaking scoot man, I don’t even want to think about him.

  • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ PowrFwd37

    I did see something that made me smile just a little bit, with regards to the NHL today: As a result of the shortened season, Raffi Torres’ suspension will take away a full 25% of this season.

    So, there’s that. I smiled about an NHL-related tidbit today.

    • Sparky_The_Barbarian

      Muahahahahahaha. Oh, there is a god.

      • 10thMountainFire

        …and his name is Marian Hossa.

  • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ PowrFwd37

    Another note, since nicknames were mentioned earlier in the thread:

    We will finally see the Hawk debut of our new toy “Moonpie!”

    • Z-man19

      Try the edit before you Laaarmer

      • girlphoenix

        that’s cheating though

        • Z-man19

          It’s not cheating GP, it allows some of us to retract our stupidity before everyone can see it, it’s a good thing

          • girlphoenix

            still say it’s cheating. own your typos

          • Z-man19

            Typos are one thing, ‘oh fuck, did I really type that’, is a whole different thing

          • DesertHawk

            You can have all of mine, if it makes you feel better.

          • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ PowrFwd37

            Edit all of the things???

      • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ PowrFwd37

        There is no edit, there is only Laaarmer.

        • Accipiter

          He’s right here !!

          • Z-man19

            Is there an egg in here?

          • Accipiter

            You tell me, Omega.

          • Z-man19

            Camelina meal, feed it to your chickens for more Omega 3 in your eggs

          • Accipiter

            What happens when you feed your chickens mercury ?

          • Z-man19

            Bad things

          • Joe Banks

            They run in circles really fast?

    • Joe Banks

      Who is moon pie?

      • Accipiter

        Sheldon Brookbank.

        • Joe Banks

          Thanks

        • Z-man19

          I vote you do the CI for Dummies Guide. Lance is MIA and you have them down anyway, get to it Javey

        • 10thMountainFire

          New guy better not get in my face. Cause I’ll drop that motherfucker.

      • http://www.thecommittedindian.com/ PowrFwd37

        Sheldon Brookbank.

  • TKHO

    This scares me: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2013/01/new-cba-doesnt-hurt-roberto-luongo.html

    If you want to sleep at night, don’t run the numbers with Hossa’s contract.

    • Accipiter

      It doesn’t matter. He’s Marian Hossa and Luongo is not.

    • TKHO

      Okay, I ran the numbers and it doesn’t look as bad as I had feared. However, it also means Hossa will likely never be traded.

      Here’s what the Hawks would owe annually through 2020-21 if they kept Hossa and he retired in the given year:

      2013-14: $1.3M
      2014-15: $1.9M
      2015-16: $2.6M
      2016-17: $3.7M
      2017-18 or later: $4.3M

      Interesting scenario: if the Hawks trade/release Hossa after 2015-16 and he retires with 1 year left on his contract. The Hawks’ would then have an $18.3M cap hit for somebody not on their roster in 2020-21.

    • http://twitter.com/CheerTheAnthem Cheer the Anthem

      Replace the name Hossa with Keith.

    • nextgame

      I was discussing with my wife the possibility of the Hawks approaching Hossa (and possibly even Keith) about a buyout and renegotiation if allowed under the new CBA.
      Those two contracts could be real millstones down the road.

  • Joe Banks

    Will Hjalmarsson be gone before game one?

    • TKHO

      I really don’t think he gets traded this season, unless they can parlay him into a really solid return. We’ll see about the off-season, however.

      • 10thMountainFire

        The new cappy-cap may have something to say about where Jelly ends up.

      • Joe Banks

        With the additions of Rosival and Brookbank, they have 7 D men without bringing the kids back from Rock Vegas.
        Assuming Montador’s Gray matter isn’t still turning brown, somethings gotta give.

    • Sparky_The_Barbarian

      Admittedly I’m not the hockey guru some here are, but I don’t get the whole ‘Hammer Must Go’ scenario for this year. 1. There are no big cap issues, 2. who is available that is any better? The one scenario that makes sense to me is to clear cap space for a high priced veteran goaltender, because that worked out so well last time….

  • http://twitter.com/daveanton dave anton

    In EA NHL ’04 (yeh thas right) I keep calling Shaw “Artie!” when he scores…because “Shawzer” is so J-V. Think it’ll stick?