The Arrival – Stars vs Hawks Preview, Pregame Thread, Teuvo Teusday

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Game Time: 7:00PM
TV/Radio: CSN, WGN-AM 720
This Love: Defending Big D

What six months ago looked to be just another game along the home stretch of the schedule between the Stars and Hawks figures tonight to be anything but. The Stars are fighting for their playoff lives in the newly configured Western Conference, while thousands of sweaty adult men clad in red anxiously await their first glimpse of a taut, 19-year old Scandanavian boy in a Hawks uniform.

The Stars come into tonight a point back of Phoenix for second wild card (aka the eighth spot) in the West with a game in hand after Dallas won vs. Winnipeg last night and Phoenix was dropped at MSG by the Blueshirts, with goalie Mike Smith needing to be carried off the ice with a presumed catastrophic injury. Of course news today is that Smith only has a strain and will miss a couple weeks, which figures. But even in that window the Stars have an opportunity to gain some ground starting tonight.

Lindy Ruff has predictably turned this outfit into mid-aughts Sabres redux, with arguably better top end talent in Tyler Seguin and Olympian Jamie Benn than he ever had there. Both are 1-2 in every Stars scoring category, with Party Boy Tyler pacing things at 32 goals and 42 assists, with Benn not far off at 30 and 39 himself. But they’re getting contributions from up and down the lineup as well, with the Ginger Ninja ably filling in the second center role with his face-first brand of hockey, Erik Cole has proven to not be totally useless and deteriorated at his age, and rookie Valeri Nichushkin contributing while growing into his massive frame. And in the bottom six, Ryan Garbutt, Antoine Roussel, and Vern Fiddler more than meet the irritant quota. The Stars are currently 11th with a 50.8% Corsi share, and per 60 minutes put 30 shots on goal at even strength. The problem is they’ve been giving up 29.

That’s not to say there aren’t some fine components on the Stars’ blue line. Brenden Dillon looks to be a solid second pairing guy for years to come, and Alex Goligoski has seemingly rediscovered his offensive instincts, even if he’ll never be worth giving up James Neal for. The Stars are also high on Kevin Connauton’s offensive potential, as well as the gigantic Jamie Oleksiak, who has seen but a cup of coffee to this point. And Trevor Daley is still doing whatever Trevor Daley does.

This leaves a lot of the responsibility to Kari Lehtonen, who has been reliably solid when he’s upright, which has always been the caveat. Lehtonen played last night against Winnipeg holding the Jets to one goal, and last week returned from a concussion, so it’s iffy on whether it will be him tonight or the recently acquired Tim Thomas. With points at a premium, Tea Party Timmy’s .884 since joining the Stars has been, well, less than stellar. With no official word due to a lack of a morning skate for the Stars, the safer bet would be Lehtonen.

As for our Men of Four Feathers, it’s time for The Plan All Along v2.0. Though to be fair to the Hawks’ braintrust, a lot more of the groundwork for Timbo Tigersharken has been laid than ever was for Marcus Kruger’s hasty placement in the lineup. Joel Quenneville has been effusive in his praise of Baby Finnish Jesus dating all the way back to camp in August and September, and that his clearance to come to Chicago was announced a good 15 minutes before Kane’s injury shows that they were planning on having him come here even if Kane were healthy. Regardless of circumstances, he’s here now, and he’ll get a chance to help.

By the looks of things from practice, he’ll do so between Ben Smith and Brandon Saad, which while not the worst situation for him to be in, it’s not the best. Smith and Saad are ravenous forecheckers, which takes some of the onus of that off of the light in the ass Tango Tempurpedic. But that can lead to plenty of running around and some crossed up defensive assignments, which is why between Hossa and Sharp might have been a little bit of a softer landing for kid. But this is Joel Quenneville after all, so all of this might get thrown into a woodchipper two shifts in anyway. The only hope is that he gets a look on the second power play unit running the half wall, and relieving Kris Versteeg of whatever it was he was doing there.

On the back end Michal Rozsival remains out, so Sheldon Brookbank will once again be out there to get beaten to a spot by a forechecker and needlessly fight someone on the other side. Corey Crawford, who probably wants that Gabriel Bourque shot back from the other night, predictably gets the cage.

These are two teams still with plenty left to play for, and actual Frenchman Antoine Roussel did his best to try to make this an actual rivalry the last time the Stars were here with a fantastic heel turn after scoring the deciding goal in a game the Hawks snowed the Stars in otherwise (sound familiar?). Lindy Ruff will have his charges trade chances with the best of them, regardless of circumstance, so there will be plenty of ice to maneuver through. Those conditions are likely why tonight was chosen to unveil Trumbo Togalinen as opposed to the rigid Predators, and hopefully he’ll make the most of that space. Let’s go Hawks.

If you’re not going to tonight’s game, you can pick up the PDF of our gamenight program right here. And if you are going, buy a hard copy. We’re at the four corners of the UC.



  • Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne

    Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne.

    • Waylon

      Hi Bob – say, what do you think of Teuvo?

    • CozBullsFan

      Hi Bob!

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      What DOES the fox say?

  • OMFS88

    #TIVO #YOLO

  • Tornsys

    Teuvo TearEmANewOne?

    • raditzzzz

      teuvenator 2: judgement day

      • nextgame

        I have to say, there have been plenty of very witty and amusing Teuvo nicknames thrown around, but ‘The Teuvonator’ is my new favorite.
        kudos.

  • MattC86

    I have to say, as a gay hockey fan who gets creeped out by Outsports and other gay fan sites fawning and drooling over athletes, McClure’s intro makes me very happy. A bunch of fat Midwestern heterosexuals fawning in vaguely erotic fashion over a 19 year old Scandinavian (oh fuck it, I’ll just say it – a twink) makes me think maybe we’re not so different after all.

    If that post made you uncomfortable. . . I don’t care.

  • putmeinthemadhouse

    i for one am excited to see django jambalaya

  • DuHawk

    Hello friends.

    • roadhog

      Yes, he Du.

      • DuHawk

        Boar.

        • roadhog

          RU excited to see TT Boy tonight?

          • DuHawk

            I’m so excited, & I just can’t hide it.

          • roadhog

            I know, I know, I know . . . and I think I like it.

      • Z-man19

        boaruevo

    • 1benmenno

      How do, Du.

      • DuHawk

        Hello Menno.

        • 1benmenno

          They call me Mello Menno. Quite rightly.

          • Z-man19

            who calls you that?

          • 1benmenno

            Teuvo Donovainen

          • Z-man19

            he’s wrong

      • Z-man19

        benuevo

        • 1benmenno

          zutano

    • CozBullsFan

      Du

      • DuHawk

        Jello Pudding.

      • Z-man19

        Cozuevo

        • CozBullsFan

          Z.

    • chidiver

      Duper

      • DuHawk

        Holy Diver.

      • Z-man19

        chievo

    • Z-man19

      Duevo

      • DuHawk

        Zed.

  • red palace

    The Teuvolution WILL be televised.

    • roadhog

      So you could Tivo it?

  • laaarmer

    Toivonen!

  • laaarmer

    Older guys. Can’t you hear Johnny Carson right now?
    MMM Tayvo terravinen…………. He lives in Pismo Beach

    • nextgame

      Is he related to Raoul of Bayonne?
      If he doesn’t play well at least he’ll look sharp.

  • chidiver

    All I’m hoping from Umlaut is that he play a solid, fundamentally sound game…and stay out of Q’s doghouse. Anything beyond that tonight would be a bonus for the kid’s first game in the NHL.

    • laaarmer

      Toews had a goal on his 1st shot on his 1st shift. He needs to top that.

      • ahnfire

        Teuvo needs to score 2 goals on his first shot?

        • laaarmer

          Anything less is a complete failure

        • Bob Lanz

          Awesome sauce!

      • roadhog

        That’s an achievement in EA NHL ’13.

    • DuHawk

      & steer clear of that douchebag Roussel.

      • chidiver

        Maybe Frenchie will surrender to the Umlaut

  • laaarmer

    Is Handzus playing?

    • nextgame

      I’m assuming Morin or Regin will be the healthy scratch du juor.

      • laaarmer

        I like that Regin fella. I hope Morin gets to play. Is Bickell in?
        maybe timmy terradactyl gets scratched just to piss off the unwashed masses

        • roadhog

          Regin’s play thus far as a Hawk should make him scratchproof IMO.

          • DuHawk

            I thought I was the only one who held that opinion. He’s looked good.

          • roadhog

            We ain’t alone . . . Regin love has fallen backseat to the second coming- let the circle jerk commence!

          • Fleshrifle

            /Thornton’d

          • laaarmer

            I should be Rayjeh rather than the boorish ReeGin

          • Z-man19

            I don’t think Q has embraced The Regin, his TOI tends to disappear in games

          • roadhog

            Doesn’t mean DU/Laaarm’s/I can’t like him. Get on board or step off . . . Regin>Handzus

          • Z-man19

            did I say I didn’t like him? grumpy pig today?

          • roadhog

            No, just fired up. You’re good. Love the Cups, tired of the Q knows best weird ass game time start selections- and TOI/dog house for some players.

          • Z-man19

            We appear to be on the same page

          • roadhog

            As always . . . mein freund.

          • laaarmer

            What the fuck are fucking spouting off about now? Can you fucking read? Did I say anything about REEgIN other than I like that fella and we should pronounce his name like he’s french. Come on Mr Magoo. Read it

          • roadhog

            Ok, off the bus . . .

          • laaarmer

            I like Handzus you.
            I also like rEEgIN
            I don’t even mind Bollig, unless he’s covering Duchene or something

          • Z-man19

            I believe hog asked you to get OFF THE BUS

          • laaarmer

            You guys on the short bus?
            Seems like it.

          • roadhog

            It’s a micro bus, but the roof pops up and we have a stove.

          • Z-man19

            and a keg

          • roadhog

            An a bag of gumballs, which we stole.

          • Z-man19

            from Chico

          • laaarmer

            Hormel?

          • roadhog

            Rayjean deserves more ice time IMO, and if you take it away from Zus, I don’t mind. Bollig boggles boar’s brain.

          • Bob Lanz

            I think in the limited time what I have seen he looks like a contributor. Morin too. Scratch Zues, Versteeg or Bollig

          • VerStig

            Gorilla Glass

  • laaarmer

    When he scores, they need to play the Audio from Santa Clause is coming to Town

    “Hermey wants to be a dentist”

    • laaarmer

      He need the sanity Clause
      /claus’d

    • bizarrohairhelmet

      dentoost

      • laaarmer

        He’s a Laplander..a Sami

  • birdhead

    “Two Graphs and 480 Words That Will Convince You On Corsi%” http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=6838

    A bold claim.

    • http://www.lotsofbutterplease.com/ I am not Chico Maki

      It’s a nice, succinct way of explaining things. I wish he’d gone to better lengths to explain the first part, though. I felt like a bit of a doofus piecing together just exactly what the graph was trying to reveal, and so where it was going. But very good.

      • birdhead

        Yeah, he’s not the best at datavis. I agree that that chart could have been much more clear. Just an extra sentence – “This chart shows the number of players with a given Corsi% who have a GF% of over 50″ – would have improved clarity and I think you could have conveyed exactly the same thing with a GF% versus CF% scatterplot, but still: an excellent summary.

        • Z-man19

          waiting for the Why response

          • birdhead

            I intend to direct him to Dellow himself.

          • Z-man19

            that should be fun

          • birdhead

            I live in hope.

          • Z-man19

            if Why changes course on Corsi, I’ll come down there and live in hope with you

          • 1benmenno

            It’s the capital of NZ.

          • birdhead

            better than Toronto, the capital of Canada

          • Why

            Of course, although I’m not sure what this quick post was designed to prove. I’ve got two quick thoughts:

            1) There’s no comparison between Corsi and other statistics. If Corsi’s something we should be looking at, it should be better than the other statistics (for example, shots for and against).

            2) We also get no information from those charts on what’s explaining the difference year to year (is the player’s Corsi falling or rising or is the change attributable to change in the GF%?). My problem is that individual Corsi isn’t particularly repeatable either (I believe the correlation is in the 30% range on a year to year basis). Most players are going to cluster around the mean for all stats over a long enough time period. That’s how the number became the mean.

            There’s nothing here that should convince anyone that’s not already drinking the Kool-Aid.

          • Z-man19

            I’ve lost hope. Cancel the cake bird, I’m not moving

        • Bruno_the_Blackhawk_Cat

          I kind of think the scatter plot idea would be better. Using the %age of a team above a given GF% seems like an odd way to look at it. Isn’t that comparing a team-level stat with an individual stat? Maybe apples and oranges.

          Do you know where I could find the data to make such a chart? I may try to get myself into some of this fancy math stuff. Or scare myself straight.

          • birdhead

            He’s not comparing teams. He’s taking individual players and putting them in big buckets based on their CF% (that is, the proportion of shots taken while they were on ice for and against their team), and then he’s seeing what percentage of players in those buckets had a GF% (the percentage of goals scored for and against their team) over 50. It’s misleading because he used the words “teams” in the title but they’re both individual stats – the Corsi % and the Goals % while that player is on the ice. (I mean, neither Corsi nor Goals are *individual* stats, it’s *all* a team stat, but.)

          • Bruno_the_Blackhawk_Cat

            Gotcha. I guess using buckets is needed for a bar chart. Which goes back to your point that a scatter plot would be easier (or I’m just more familiar with them). Maybe it’s harder to interpret, tho. The bars do show a nice, clean, upward trend — the desired appearance.

          • birdhead

            In terms of getting the data. Behindthenet is the go-to and I think you can get it out of extraskater and hockeyanalysis.com too, but extraskater only goes back the last few years. In terms of getting hold of the data it depends on how smart you are about scraping data and that kind of thing (which I can’t do, which is why I haven’t done the scatterplot thing because I too am interested).

          • Bruno_the_Blackhawk_Cat

            Thx. I may check it out tomorrow. I doubt I’ll spend more than 5 minutes on it. I’m not that invested in the idea.

  • Z-man19

    BFJ, I like that, or just FJ

  • http://www.our-founding.com/ Toews makes funny faces

    Hi

    • Z-man19

      tmffeuvo

    • 1benmenno

      Yo Tmff

    • roadhog

      It’s the funny face!!!

  • 10thMountainFire

    I’ll be the the outcast… Is Morin playing?

    • Z-man19

      who?

    • laaarmer

      We wee trying to figure that our below and Roadhog started some shit.

      Apparently we can’t like Handzus and Regin at the same time. It’s bad for business.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Rest Zus every other game if he’ll be the 2C going into the post-season?

        • laaarmer

          Toews
          Terry Twotoes (until he fails, which he may or may not)
          Kruger
          Handzus
          Reegin
          Smith
          Sharp

          I think the Center job is covered.

          • 10thMountainFire

            He hasn’t skated yet. We’re slotting Teuvo at 2C for the post-season?

          • laaarmer

            I’m slotting all the centers as centers.

          • Z-man19

            Shaw?

          • laaarmer

            Yeah, like he’s a center

          • 10thMountainFire

            I would imagine Q looks to use Zus at 2C. It was a good bet last year. Maybe Teuvo sets the world on fire and makes it impossible for Q to ignore him but for now, I would guess Zus is the answer going forward, no?

          • laaarmer

            Teuvo is going to play some games here, but not sure how many or for how much TOI/G

            I know he did well in the Filnadia Elitttenon liga, but this is a long way from there

          • 10thMountainFire

            I’d love to see him break out at a PPG. But I’m tempering my expectations.

          • laaarmer

            He’s a Tpg

          • 10thMountainFire

            I’m going to rip the ‘T’ off of my keypad by the end of the season.

          • laaarmer

            Just replace it with a T

          • 10thMountainFire

            I’m going to replace it with a broken key spot.

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            They don’t even have a Smoke Monster team here.

          • Z-man19

            laaarms likes Zus as the shutdown C

          • 10thMountainFire

            So do I. But I get the inkling Q likes him between Kane and _________.

          • laaarmer

            He did OK in last playoffs, eh?

          • Z-man19

            he was the shutdown C last playoffs?

          • laaarmer

            He was one of them.
            Toews, Bolland, Handzus. Kruger on the PK.

            It takes a village!

            Handzus did a hell of a job against Thornton

          • Z-man19

            in the playoffs last year?

          • laaarmer

            Yes, I was watching and thinking Handzus is playing well. Then I heard that he had a broken body and strained sinews during all or most of it.

            They played pretty well, and Handzus was a not small part of it.

            In last years playoffs.

          • Z-man19

            against Thornton? in the playoffs? last year?

          • roadhog

            I’m not sure we are talking about the same Thornton.

          • laaarmer

            I don’t know. There was this guy and he had all this weed and said it was OK if I borrowed some. Then Handzus came out and played hockey like the 1st 8 games when he was here before. It was all so quick. Then Bolland did this thing.

          • Z-man19

            put a first name to your Thornton

          • roadhog

            My Thornton’s name is Kjell.

          • Z-man19

            more info I didn’t really need

          • bizarrohairhelmet

            He only played against the one in Boston

          • Z-man19

            There’s a tad bit of difference between that one and the one laaarmer was thinking of

          • roadhog

            I don’t know if Handzus will fit in the micro bus . . . but he can ride on top.

          • laaarmer

            He’s a big body

    • Bob Lanz

      I am also concerned about mr. Morin and if or where he will be slotted in.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Slotted nicely in the press box.

    • Z-man19

      according to this, Morin is out

      http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=27590

      • laaarmer

        BASTARDS!

        • Z-man19

          REEgin is in though, and Bollig for something

        • roadhog

          Clearly, we can’t all we get what we want . . . and/or . . . no one in the world ever get’s what they want and that is beautiful.

      • 10thMountainFire

        Yeah, because he looked terrible and match-ups and because of terrorists and then the hurricane and Morin missed the bus and tripped Toews at practice while running over Q’s cat.

        Screw it. I’m watching Justified.

        • roadhog

          My brain hurts from searching for logic.

          • 10thMountainFire

            I like to give Q the benefit of the doubt, mostly because he has 700 more NHL wins than I do, two Cups, and I generally really like his nuanced coaching style. But with Morin I scratch my head.

          • roadhog

            And . . . Bollig . . . and . . .

        • DuHawk

          Who’s your source that says Q even has a cat?

          • 10thMountainFire

            Well he doesn’t… anymorin.

          • roadhog

            Someone’s on XM-FIRE!!!!!!

          • DuHawk

            This is a serious hockey site; quit screwing around!

        • laaarmer

          You are not.

          • 10thMountainFire

            Ok, but it’s because of Cornelison.

          • laaarmer

            It’s because of UU

          • 10thMountainFire

            That didn’t trick me.

          • laaarmer

            RR

        • lizmcneill

          Block said he heard that Morin is not going back to the Rock this season, so maybe he gets back in later.

          • 10thMountainFire

            When Brookbank moves to goaltender?

          • DuHawk

            How dare you say something so grotesque? I’m eating here.

  • Bob Lanz

    Tempered excitement shown by McClure tonight… I think not. All those clever plays on dragon boys name tell me he is as excited as I and some of you are too! ( all of us ) enter the dragon and let 86 be they next great Hawks sweater I shall be wearing (with nothing underneath)!

    • roadhog

      By underneath, I assume you mean below.

      • Z-man19

        do we really need that info?

        • roadhog

          My apology, some information is better unknown.

          • Z-man19

            as excited as Lanzer is about TT, I’m pretty sure we all know the answer despite not really wanting to know

          • roadhog

            Lanz is on the Rayjean Micro Bus- noted below. He’s good peeps.

  • TheFullAmonte

    I will admit I am a big fan of Morin, so since my opinion is biased I will come to you guys. What do you think he needs to do to get more ice time? Is it improved backchecking or positioning? Or is it just that Q isn’t fond of him? I’ve always liked what I’ve seen from him and would love to see him on a checking line with Kruger.

    • roadhog

      Grow a beard and steal Bollig’s jersey. Joking of course, it’s a fair question to which I have no answer . . .

      • 10thMountainFire

        Cue the haters.

        • roadhog

          I wouldn’t be surprised if TT Boy gets scratched for back problems. It’s a lot of weight.

    • laaarmer

      I don’t know.

    • jordyhawk

      Perplexing. And yet Versteeg variously loafs, coasts, coughs up the puck, scores little and he is playing on the first line. Can’t figure it either.

  • birdhead

    Well the Canes are getting ripped into tiny pieces by the Isles.

    • Z-man19

      Shame

  • CozBullsFan

    GO TORONTO! Up one on the River Scum.

  • The Random Element

    Fin-Teuvo-you-lose Finteuvoulous!

  • The Random Element

    Teuvo Terrifyin’

  • laaarmer

    How much time for the #2 – #4 pairing?
    #7 – #8?

    • 10thMountainFire

      You forgot someone.

      • laaarmer

        I mean how much time will these pairing get to play together?
        I understand that Keth Seabs, Hjammer Oduya, and Leddy Brookbank are the pairings, but I also think that Q is letting them play a bit away from their normal partner. Who knew Q was into that sort of thing. I’m going to check out extra skater to see how much Hjammer played with Keith right now and what his Crosorsi was during that time.

        • 10thMountainFire

          Oduya-Seabs is not a bad pairing.

  • Mike

    Man, after all this hype we’ve waited through, Teuvo better come down from the rafters holding a baseball bat or somethin, “OH MAH GAWWDD”

  • 2883

    It’s time for Tee(vo) Teravechkin

  • 10thMountainFire

    Bragging about Shaw’s play? Hive-mind.

    • 2883

      He’s got 9 pts in the last 11 G’s, he’s not been a slouch

      • 10thMountainFire

        Now subtract what he’s cost us with a slew of badly timed penalties.

        • 2883

          he’s got 12 PIMs in that same period.

          • 10thMountainFire

            So we’re just doing time in the box now or…

          • 2883

            Meaning even if every single PP resulted in a goal, he’d still be directly related to 2 more goals than he cost the team

          • 10thMountainFire

            It’s not about just giving up goals. It’s killing opportunities to score goals.

          • 2883

            Wow Tim Sassone died, I just thought he retired

          • 2883

            He’s been a net positive influence on the lineup, he is a pest, sometimes he’s gonna step over that line

          • 10thMountainFire

            Flat-out, he’s taken some really awful, stupid, terribly-timed penalties lately.

          • 2883

            What’s his PD vs PT ratio?

          • 2883

            1.6 PD to 1.0 PT. for the full season

          • 10thMountainFire

            The piece aired was on his contributions lately. Lately, he has taken awful penalties.

          • 2883

            Ok, well I don’t know of a website that does splits on his PD vs PT.

            Also he’s scored.

          • lizmcneill

            extraskater.com